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October 27th, 2012, 13:21 GMT · By

Yahoo! Snaps at Microsoft Over Do Not Track, Will Ignore IE10

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Yahoo isn't happy with Microsoft's stance on DNT
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Microsoft isn't making a lot friends with its decision to enable Do Not Track by default. The biggest advertising trade group already came out against the decision and said that its members will not respect it.

The Apache web server will also ignore the request coming from Internet Explorer 10, which includes the default setting. Even so, you wouldn't expect one of Microsoft's closer allies to come out against it. 

But that's exactly what Yahoo! did and it didn't mince words, it singled out Microsoft and IE 10 as problems and said that it can't support a Do Not Track standard where browser makers decide for the users.

"Unfortunately, because discussions have not yet resulted in a final standard for how to implement DNT, the current DNT signal can easily be abused," Yahoo explained.

"Recently, Microsoft unilaterally decided to turn on DNT in Internet Explorer 10 by default, rather than at users’ direction," it recounted.

"In our view, this degrades the experience for the majority of users and makes it hard to deliver on our value proposition to them. It basically means that the DNT signal from IE10 doesn’t express user intent," it added.

This is the view that all advertisers share and it's something that most if not all of the people on the other side to the barricade, i.e. browser makers and even web server makers, support.

Do Not Track means nothing without user control. Mozilla is a strong proponent of user privacy but it's even stronger proponent of user control.

Having DNT enabled by default just shifts the balance of power from advertisers to Microsoft, users still don't have a say or even know what's happening.

"Ultimately, we believe that DNT must map to user intent — not to the intent of one browser creator, plug-in writer, or third-party software service. Therefore, although Yahoo! will continue to offer Ad Interest Manager and other tools, we will not recognize IE10’s default DNT signal on Yahoo! properties at this time," Yahoo said.

The discussion around DNT is not progressing and Microsoft is the big reason why. It's pretty obvious that it's misguided and roundabout try at hurting Google protecting user privacy is backfiring and the question of what exactly Microsoft hopes to achieve with this comes up.

At this current rate, all that it's going to achieve is to obliterate efforts to standardize Do Not Track. If that's what Microsoft wants it's doing a great job at it.


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Comment #1 by: havasu46 on 27 Oct 2012, 15:27 UTC reply to this comment

We'll maybe consumers need someone to fill a class action suit against those that chose to ignore the DNT default of YES. I'll be the EU will enforce it.


Comment #2 by: Perdido Beach on 29 Oct 2012, 02:10 UTC reply to this comment

Yahoo's opinion about user choice is a bit misleading. During the install of Win8, there IS a choice to continue with Do Not Track ON as a default or tun it OFF... Seems to us that this is , IN FACT, a user choice. I suppose the Yahoo opinion would be to have the default in the OFF position. If I owned Win8, then I would probably alter the INSTALL to NO OPTION... neither on or off and halt the install until the user choose one or the other. However, I would definitely explain the ramifications as it pertains to personal privacy... Then they would complain about my definition... Never ends with these advertisers.... I demand my privacy and will use every tool at my disposal to block tracking.

Comment #2.1 by: Lucian Parfeni on 30 Oct 2012, 08:11 GMT

The Do Not Track specs, in their current form, say that the user has to make a choice, but also that the user shouldn't be forced to make a choice. DNT can be in three states, enabled, disabled or unspecified - when the user hasn't made any selection.

Microsoft only offers two choices. DNT is enabled by default if you go through the standard setup for Windows 8. If you choose to customize your settings, which most people don't, you can choose to disable DNT. But with little explanation of what that means and with it enabled by default, who is going to change it?

It's this deviation from the specs that everyone has a problem with and it's not just advertisers, it's Mozilla, Apache and everyone else involved in the process.


Comment #3 by: Eric on 29 Oct 2012, 19:35 UTC reply to this comment

"If that's what Microsoft wants it's doing a great job at it."

Exactly. As if the advertising trade group is really so peeved at this...in truth they are probably ecstatic that Microsoft has demolished a standard that would only hurt their revenues.

Business cares about money, period. If you want to know why they do something, it is for the money...or at least, for what they think will get them the most money.

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