Windows Live Messenger 9.0 (2009) File Sharing Evolution
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With the Wave 3 versions of Windows Live applications and services, Microsoft delivers a new level of integration between its instant messaging client and its Cloud storage solution. The intimate relationship between Windows Live Messenger 9.0 (2009)
and Windows Live SkyDrive Wave 3
is visible with the Beta Refresh of the IM client, namely Build 14.0.8050.1202. Steven Abrahams
, lead program manager for Windows Live Messenger, indicated that Microsoft improved the file sharing capabilities of Windows Live Messenger 9.0 (2009), adapting them to user behavior.
“In the last few versions of Messenger we had a feature called Sharing Folders, which would allow you to share files, videos, and photos with any of your contacts. What we learned was that most people were using this to show their friends a photo right away when they were in a conversation. So, we built the new photo sharing experience in Messenger. We also learned that some people did want to share more generic files between each other, but they didn’t like that both people had to be online at the same time for Sharing Folders to sync files between contacts,” Abrahams noted.
The evolution of Windows Live Messenger 9.0 (2009) throughout Beta development milestones has brought the IM client closer and closer to Windows Live SkyDrive Wave 3. Via SkyDrive users can leverage no less than 25 GB of storage space for free, an option valid straight from Windows Live Messenger. All conversation windows in Windows Live Messenger 9.0 (2009) allow them to Publish Files Online. This possibility will open a browser window for SkyDrive, where the users will have to create folders, upload files, and set sharing settings.
“The great thing about the new sharing experience through SkyDrive is that you post files that you want to share, give your friends the link to the folder and you’re done. They can then get access to those files whenever – either immediately if they’re already online, or at any point in the future. In the new version of Messenger we have integrated links to SkyDrive right into the conversation window,” Abrahams explained.
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|Comment #1 by: bob on 30 Dec 2008, 21:47 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Not a nice move - Now how do I share a 200 meg family video? Skydrive has a lousy 50 meg limit.
|Comment #2 by: Eliska on 02 Jan 2009, 14:29 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I don't like that the shared folder is not there anymore. it was simple with dragging whole files with 50 pics in it into the folder. now I have to upload them one by one into skydrive. Not a good move imo.
|Comment #3 by: pissed off on 08 Jan 2009, 18:42 UTC|| reply to this comment|
UGH! why not leave the option for shared folders... skydrive is a POS
|Comment #4 by: will on 09 Jan 2009, 16:50 UTC|| reply to this comment|
the idea to remove sharing folders is the worst idea ever. I'm going back to the old version until you decide to fix this.
|Comment #4.1 by: Stephanie on 14 Mar 2009, 00:42 GMT|
I also hate the fact that there aren't sharing folders on the new version how do i convert back to the previous version?
|Comment #5 by: Lily ANn on 09 Jan 2009, 17:07 UTC|| reply to this comment|
hate it coz i can no longer with files that are bigger than 50Mb and i've to upload each file one by one without drag and drop
|Comment #6 by: gcaires on 11 Jan 2009, 11:49 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Not that good.... i think probably you didin't thought that well.... was kind of stupid. on my company i only replace a product or service, if i can offer an other product with the same spec's and with additional features. Well that doesn't happend here. i can't understand if it was more than ever a comercial decision, or in other case a decision of an imature mind.
about the IM, looks more pretty... but not that diferent than IM from 2 years ago. :)
i think that 2008 year must been a hard work year.
|Comment #7 by: Ripper on 12 Jan 2009, 12:39 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I tried the new messenger and liked it that much i uninstalled it and went back to 8.5. I fail to see how restricting you to 50mb upload on skydrive is an advance in technology when the old sharing folders let you upload pretty much any size file (within reason) Yet another case of Microsoft knowing best!!!
|Comment #8 by: Peakie22 on 12 Jan 2009, 15:39 UTC|| reply to this comment|
"but they didn’t like that both people had to be online at the same time for Sharing Folders to sync files between contacts" - wasnt a problem at all. I could add files any time and they would synch the next time we talked to each other. If I wanted to send a file that the other person would see as soon as they went online, I'd send an email attachment! Bring back the simple shared folder option.
|Comment #9 by: Abraham Tol on 13 Jan 2009, 13:59 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Typical Microsoft not to be downward compatible. First Vista and prior OS releases and now Shared Folders. A great option I used to exchange all kinds of files with my children and friends. When will MS wake up and re-install this feature in the 2009 version. Before that I will not upgrade. MS serve your customers.
|Comment #10 by: Davin on 15 Jan 2009, 05:02 UTC|| reply to this comment|
This is crap half my family has dial-up now its going to take them a year and a half to view anything or send me anything my mother is old she isnt goign to be able to learn how to upload stuff and spend 5 days downloading a family video with her dialup you guys are starting to suck im going back to yahoo till you start thinking about customers not everyone likes improvement why not make skydrive optional and leave the shared foulders? that would ahve been a smarter move...
|Comment #11 by: gilian on 16 Jan 2009, 19:26 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Oh I am so pleased I have found these comments, I was going to download the new version 9.0, but wanted to make sure that all the old features were still there like the sharring folders and winks ect. Why oh why cant microsoft let the people who dam well use it design the new version we know what features we want . All they had to do was send out a questioner. We I will be keeping to the old 8.5 until they design a decent version.
|Comment #12 by: Dan on 24 Jan 2009, 05:04 UTC|| reply to this comment|
What crap! Bring back sharing folders, typical of Microsoft to dictate to us what we need and want.
|Comment #13 by: athar on 24 Jan 2009, 20:05 UTC|| reply to this comment|
this is the worst messenger ever tried . It has so many bugs . I just damn it. I lost all my contacts , its hard to install . its not worth it. you better improve ther services
|Comment #14 by: Arianna on 25 Jan 2009, 02:51 UTC|| reply to this comment|
omg...this is stupid... -.-
They should've kept the sharing folders the way
they had been with messenger 8.
Having to upload it online and with a limit
is ridiculous. I don't care if people complained about them,
but you should have still kept the old
sharing folder options instead
of making users have to upload them
|Comment #15 by: Tony on 27 Jan 2009, 12:05 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Really annoying to use version 2009! Whoever's decision to reinvent the wheel shd get the sack!
|Comment #16 by: Morty on 01 Feb 2009, 14:46 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Not only does it seem that the shared folder option disappeard as one of the few really good functions, but installing the new 2009 version actually seems to have deleted and removed those folders that was shared prior to this idiotic update.
I may be a bit paranoid here, but does not trust MS with my files on any server. It doesnt smell right.
Are they having a concealed agenda to start charging users for folder sharing capacity on their servers?
|Comment #17 by: scrunch on 05 Feb 2009, 14:56 UTC|| reply to this comment|
The inability to not share a quick jpg makes this version seem pretty much useless. I was unsure if I really liked this version (2009) but after confirming this lack of quick sharing, (in the steve ballmer era of dropping the ball(mer) on everything ms does), pretty much makes it useless.
|Comment #18 by: Arn on 06 Feb 2009, 19:59 UTC|| reply to this comment|
WLM 2009 Build 14.0.8050.1202 suxx.
Firstly, al the interface, all the borders... I don't like it, makes me wanna throw up. Same thing with the new icons.
SkyDrive is an alternative to sharing folders, tho Im not used to it yet. I hope it'll do good. But Dear Microsoft, did you HAVE TO FORCE us to upgrade previous version to this stinky piece of crap?
|Comment #19 by: Ruben on 09 Feb 2009, 07:37 UTC|| reply to this comment|
UGH! Sharing folders is the main reason i use msn over aim or yahoo.. Skydrive is a piece of ****
|Comment #20 by: Ces on 13 Feb 2009, 10:50 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I like WLM2009 Interface but please please please bring back the sharing folders!!!!
|Comment #21 by: Slolearner on 14 Feb 2009, 05:03 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I was totally shocked whenever I told an associate I would send the files through WLM into shared folders, whenever I tried to add a folder for this contact I got a message that "contact name was using a version of WLM that doesn't support folder sharing". Now they have a new computer and are unable to share with evryone of us??
|Comment #22 by: Baseman on 15 Feb 2009, 18:47 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Thinking Microsoft is working closely with the corrupt government to spy on us. Like come on Microsoft, this is not a good idea. You're taking an idea that YOU think is good without any regard to your customers. Hmmmm Sounds much like how the government is suppose to do for the people, but in turn do whatever they want. Time to smarten up Microsoft and LISTEN to the feedback you've created. Bottom line, a 0 out of 10...complete failure!!!
|Comment #23 by: Tom on 19 Feb 2009, 19:20 UTC|| reply to this comment|
GET THE SHARING FOLDERS BACK. It's such a hassle to share files with mates who don't have the new messenger. Also, not enough space!!
|Comment #24 by: JonJJon on 21 Feb 2009, 22:28 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Everyone please leave negative feedback on this issue about absence of sharing folders in WLM 9 here:
|Comment #25 by: Henry on 11 Mar 2009, 06:16 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Shared folders were great! It was the best way to drag-and-drop gobs of photos / files and the other party got them at their convenience... without having the pain of e-mail attachments. Especially useful for folks with crappy connections who couldn't handle e-mail choking on attachments.
Yes, I generally stay logged in all day, so that helped it to work...
I was very annoyed when I stumbled on this newer, crappier version of messenger. Falling back if I can find the old version...
|Comment #26 by: Safia on 11 Mar 2009, 22:00 UTC|| reply to this comment|
hate the new file sharing option, thinking of going back to the old messenger too...what's the use of so much designing if the functionality of the new messenger is not as good as the old one!
|Comment #27 by: TC on 18 Mar 2009, 11:04 UTC|| reply to this comment|
the 8.5 file sharing was the best feature of live messenger. Synchronizing between computers and keeping the files local was a excellent for people working together. I tried the new version and then went back right away exclusively for this reason.
|Comment #28 by: erwin on 19 Mar 2009, 22:03 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Same here, although the fact that you need to be online both is sometimes troublesome, that doesnt justify a 50mb limit per file.. how else to fill up that 25 Gig???
Better would have been to let skydrive handle stuff in the background and keep the front end similar like the shared folder: Drag and Drop to the shared folder (no file limit in size or number of files!)-> upload to skydrive -> sync to the receiving party. Even a simultaneous uplaod and sync should be possible i think...
|Comment #29 by: Nanashi on 20 Mar 2009, 05:14 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I just downloaded 9.0, thinking it looked good. Then I found out that my sharing folders were gone. I used my sharing folders almost daily, so this is a hard hit. If I wanted to upload my files to some website, I'd use MediaFire or Photobucket. No thanks, I'm going back to 8.5.
|Comment #29.1 by: Karen on 22 Mar 2009, 06:16 GMT|
How do you go back to 8.5?
I have had WLM Build 14 for as long as it's been out but have been having webcam problems and found out it is a bug in the newest version.
Now I want to go back to 8.5 but I'm having trouble getting there. Do you have a link I can download it from?
|Comment #30 by: Ian on 22 Mar 2009, 11:28 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I used the shared folders in Messenger extensively to share pictures and other files with members of my family, some of whom are not too computer savvy and have taken some time to get their head around the old system. They still have the older version of Live and are adding content to our shared folders. I have upgraded and now feel cut off!! The prospect of getting EVERYONE to change over to this more arduous system and upload ALL the shared content again is DAUNTING. One of the best thing about the old shared folders system was that it synchronised in the backgorund whilst you were communicating. The new system is time consuming and painful. Progress?, I think not.
|Comment #31 by: Sledneck on 31 Mar 2009, 00:55 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Give us back our sharing folders.They were the most useful tool Ive evergotten out of Microsoft for free.All the time Isent lots of fils back anf forth between 2 computers with 2 messenger accounts,its perfect
|Comment #32 by: MattyB on 07 May 2009, 17:27 UTC|| reply to this comment|
This sucks, I hat it already. What a no brian idea to implement! For those of you who are interested Google Talk allows drag and drop of folders into the conversation window.
|Comment #33 by: Priscilla A. on 16 Jun 2009, 21:33 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Just bring the shared folders back. That's all I ask.
|Comment #34 by: StupidMove on 17 Jun 2009, 05:48 UTC|| reply to this comment|
The old file sharing was great, there was no file size limit. NOW I will never use file sharing again because the only files I ever wanted to share with file shareing were big way more than 50mb, which is why I wanted to use it in the first place. Anything under that can be sent with the send one file thing, but that is pethetic for big files. BRING back the old file sharing
|Comment #35 by: WentBack on 27 Jun 2009, 20:05 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I reinstalled WLM 2008. I use Sharing Folders a lot because I edit files frequently and need to have them synchronized with a collaborator. I use skydrive to host files that I want to put on a web page by linking it to an online address. Since 2008 has a link also to skydrive, I have easy access to both features. I was great that my folders were re-synced when I reinstalled 2008 and no files were lost.
|Comment #36 by: DevArchitect on 26 Jul 2009, 01:05 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I really do have to say that they could give you a 2 Terrabyte limit, at 50 megs a file and not being able to map it like a drive, it is irrelevant.
The 50 meg limit really shows the limit of the approach and the lack of understanding of the customer need.
|Comment #37 by: Bina on 17 Sep 2009, 11:09 UTC|| reply to this comment|
sorry to say but removing sharing folders is the worst thing ever done by windows live...its ridiculous..sharing folder was such a simple and friendly thing previously now sharing is a hell lot of job such a nonsense... imagine the thing which use to take 5 min time for work done will take 50 mins go to sky drive create folders select single single single files every time then upload then send the link then dwnld OMG.... its terrible please give us the sharing folder back...
|Comment #38 by: Roger Koh on 20 Sep 2009, 13:54 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Share folder is wonderful, some problem of overriding wrong files though but better than now having it.
New version requires you to download for editing / upload after editing, is a regression see it from any point of view.
|Comment #39 by: stupid decision on 24 Oct 2009, 09:07 UTC|| reply to this comment|
What a big FAIL. Who came up with this "wonderful" idea to remove sharing folders? It's less work for me just to drop files in the given folder and that's it. I don't want to upload to SkyDrive, if I can just sync with people while talking to them. I've been using messenger for many years, but I'm really pissed off now. Nice going ... fail fail fail. How many negative comments do you have to get to understand this?
|Comment #40 by: blue on 06 Jan 2010, 23:41 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Agree with all the negative comments. Sharing folders worked and suited my needs. Online sharing with such a small file size limit is not very useful. Either eliminate the size limit or restore sharing folders. Geez. Listen to your user base please.
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