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May 26th, 2007, 13:01 GMT · By Lucian Dorneanu
Why Ghosts Can't Go Through Walls...and More - Scientific Arguments |
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Hollywood movies are full of monsters, bad guys, aliens and mythological creatures, which make the good guys look better after saving the world, or at least some damsel in distress. While some depictions are scientifically documented, some of them are just plain impossible and could only exist in people's imagination. Science laws debunk many of these myths and prove that they simply can't exist in the physical world, as we know it. So let's look at one example of "beings that can not be". The ghost is thought to be the apparition of a deceased person, frequently similar in appearance to that person, and encountered in places he or she frequented, or in association with the person's former belongings. It also often refers to the souls, of spirits of those who can't find eternal rest and wonder the world in search of resolution. walking through wallsNobody has been able to prove ghosts don't exist, but science has proven that they can't act the way they do. For instance, their ability to walk through walls is a common talent of Hollywood ghosts. There's one problem here. Newton's laws of physics say that if a ghost can walk, it shouldn't be able to pass through walls, since a body at rest will remain so until it's subjected to an external force and for every action there is an equal but opposite reaction. This is exactly the case with walking ghosts. If it walks, it must by applying a force to the ground it steps on and the ground must apply to the ghost an equal and opposite force, that pushes the body forward. This means that a ghost must be made of matter, and not energy. Supposing it's made of energy could explain the fact that ghosts may pass through walls, but most certainly, they couldn't walk. And if a ghost could walk through walls, this means it could also pass through the floor. If a ghost were able to stay on the floor without passing through it, then it would have to apply a force to the floor, whose equal reaction should keep her on the floor. Pure energy couldn't do that, so either way, a ghost can do both things, stand or walk and pass through walls. chill effectAnother ghost myth says that sharp drops in temperature are also associated with the arrival of a spiritual presence. It has become almost a Hollywood clich that the entrance of a ghostly presence is foreshadowed by a sudden and overwhelming chill. Again physics says it's not possible, or at least that ghosts can't be responsible for such a phenomenon.
In fact, when a warm object is placed next to a cold object, energy flows from the warm body to the cooler body, cooling the warm body. So if a ghost causes the air in a room to cool down, that means the original heat of the air must transfer onto a cooler body, which rapidly warms up. It seems that when a ghost causes the temperature in a room to drop, the ghost itself warms up, so all ghosts should be hot. But if ghosts are made of pure energy, where did the warmth go? Energy doesn't just heat up, like matter. Again, if ghosts were made of matter, they could absorb the thermal energy of the surrounding air, becoming hot themselves, but they won't be able to pass through walls, so they must enter and leave through a door or window. A more likely explanation for the chilling effect would be a sudden draft, occurring in a room with a high window or a door with a gap, where the cool air from outside displaces warm air inside, creating a system of heat cycles and eddies. This creates a combination of air currents that may cause temperatures to drop up to 2C, and the effect would be increased by the fact that humans are more sensitive to rapid changes in temperature even if the absolute change is small. soundsAnother phenomenon associated with ghosts is the sound. Most ghosts in alleged sightings are not talking, but some of them are, even though this is not possible. Speech can be described as an act of producing voice through the use of the vocal folds and vocal apparatus to create a linguistic act designed to convey information. Speech involves air, and air can't be manipulated into forming recognizable sounds by a ghost who's made of energy. So ghosts can't talk. Some of you would say that maybe the ghost is able to communicate through telepathy. That hasn't been proven so far, but supposing they posses this form of communication, why don't all them talk? A possible explanation for the ghosts is in fact related to sounds. Frequencies lower than 20 hertz are called infrasound and are normally inaudible, but British scientists Richard Lord and Richard Wiseman have concluded that infrasound can cause humans to feel a "presence" in the room, or unexplained feelings of anxiety or dread. clothesThe traditional perception of ghosts wearing clothing is considered illogical, given the supposed spiritual nature of ghosts, suggesting that the basis of what a ghost is said to look like and consist of is quite dependent on preconceptions made by society. sightThe last, and probably the most important with ghosts is that we shouldn't be able to see them. Why? Because the sight is the ability to interpret visible light information reaching the eyes, after it bounces off a surface. How can light bounce off an inexistent surface, when ghosts are made of energy? Although the physical arguments present above do not deny the existence of ghosts, I hope that they made you at least ask yourself some questions, before believing everything Hollywood is shoving down our throat.
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| Comment #1 by: Jon Bolduc on 20 May 2008, 13:23 UTC | reply to this comment | What do you say to the people who have seen ghosts in clothing, felt the chill, and seen them pass through walls? Mankind just needs to accept the fact that no science can explain why ghosts do the things they do. To tell the emmence amount of people who have seen ghosts that they are "wrong because the laws of physics said so" is ignorance within itself. |
| Comment #1.1 by: skeptic on 10 Oct 2010, 06:51 GMT | You are an idiot. 2 billion people believe in Islam and 2 billion people believe in Christianity. Who's right? if one of them is wrong that means 2 billion people are delusional. If both are wrong and the Jews are right that means 4 billion people are delusional and so on. So why is it such a stretch to think that all those people who have seen ghosts are possibly just seeing things? |
| Comment #1.2 by: BMS on 18 Dec 2010, 09:51 GMT | You are right |
| Comment #1.3 by: I CAN ANSWER GHOSTS on 18 Feb 2013, 17:44 GMT | i can use science to explain how ghosts work in detail. all those question no prob for me. short explaination, ghosts float not walk newton law doesnt apply cause they use energy to travel like a magnet force of attraction. like i say they dont stand they float. repulsion created between floor and ghost using magnetic repulsion this is also why somo compass needle moves. secondly, you said heat absorbed and where does it go? ghosts or apparations absorb heat to utilised it to such as move object, mproduce sound, possesion and so on. as you can see ghosts turn the heat energy to other forms of energy . fyu, that is why ghosts are not hot. thirdly, the sound produced by ghosts is not pressure waves like human voice. ghosts uses the same principle how they move objects with gravity. the gravity produced by a ghost able to pull the air particles to modulate the air waves that is why we cant hear a clear sound of a ghost and need to play back the video to hear them. forthly, clothes. spirits are what we remember before we died and not something phisical. spirit is memory of the dead. the spirit will menifest the form before she died (what she remember or how she looked like) and therefore how she wore. this concludes actually ghost can appear in any shape or form but always how they were when they alive because thats what they remembered. finally, sight. as i said earlier ghost cant turn into any energy it wishes for from heat. this includes light. when it turns light(a visible spectrum for human eye) therefore we can see them |
| Comment #2 by: a person from someplace on 03 Jun 2009, 02:07 UTC | reply to this comment | I like your argument--we are learning about Newton's Laws and energy in my science class and, come to think about it, you are completely correct. I never thought about ghosts that way. Thanks for sharing! |
| Comment #3 by: Bart on 21 Aug 2009, 13:34 UTC | reply to this comment | The reason why ghosts do the things they do is because they are "seen" in the human mind. This is not to say people are hallucinating when they witness something. But perhaps what they are witnessing is from some sort of mental sensation that they pick up. This explains why sometimes a few individuals are able to see or experience such phenomena while others cannot. When people see ghosts that walk into walls, they are experiencing a remnant from the past going into a modern day obstacle. |
| Comment #4 by: MW on 28 Oct 2009, 06:44 UTC | reply to this comment | Ghost are not of this dimension so they can walk through. I have a photo of a woman half through a pool table just standing there like it doesn't exist. Her dress which a vintage collector dates pre 1790 is also through the table. With the photo we have EVP of her mentioning the light that we are using. |
| Comment #5 by: Anonymous on 17 Nov 2009, 08:32 UTC | reply to this comment | I do not think the Newton things is a fact, this Hollywood fake thing is so much fake to say! Ghosts can walk through walls, or at least we dosn't know, because humans is able to fail, and humans can not know everything, and its only paranoid peoples who hunts ghosts, and thats like the past where peoples burned women they thougth was Whichtes, only becasue there were afraid, and feared the "Power Of Satan/The Devil" Haha! lol.
Iam by myself forming a team called: PAID (Paranormal Activity Ivenstigations And Discovering) which maybe will be able to end this myth and find the right answers.
PS Im too gonna experiment and find the real thing Ghosts is made of, and too invent some new of my equipment and techniques and methods.
:-D |
| Comment #6 by: Yep on 20 May 2010, 12:47 UTC | reply to this comment | Paranormal means beyond science, so as soon as you slap that word in your team you know you're not going to be anything more than a fansquad of cliche ghost hunters on TV. Face reality. The idiom of ghosts flame around the idea of electromagnetism and the status quo of how our eyes plays tricks on us. |
| Comment #7 by: Tom on 07 Aug 2010, 19:00 UTC | reply to this comment | Well it is ofcourse a nice article to suggest that Hollywood infact has a lot of crap to offer to us but there are few things that we just can't deny simply about the ghosts stuff.. Like the part of the article which suggests seeing the ghosts cannot be possible because we see things when light is reflected from an object, then I think we need to correct here some facts as I believe it's just one part of the story. This concept is applicable for the sources which do not emit light of their own but in case we have an energy source that can emit light of its own simply like our Sun then we do not need light to be reflected from that particular object so as to be made visible. So I think we should be able to see the ghosts if we can consider them to be perfect source of energy which could emit light of its own to make themself visible and yes that too at their own will.
Now coming to the passing through wall concept which is a bit tricky but yes if we consider something like we are passing through air or take the opposite as air passing through us then if we can consider ghosts to be energy and yes something like air (I mean similar to gas in material form) than ghosts should be able to pass through solid walls just like we pass through air with minimal repulsion of molecules and hence be able to reconstruct themselves on the other side of the wall in the same form.
Change in temperature is something that is really very very tricky here but if we consider some facts of chemistry or better more generic science than in case an energy gets converted to matter or takes a materialistic form or performs vice versa meaning matter getting dispersed into pure energy form than energy is liberated or absorbed which might lead to cooling when a ghost appears to a person or normal temperature/warmth when the ghost leaves the place.
As far as Sound emission is concerned energy gets very well transformed into many different forms of energy, potential to kinetic to sound etc etc and so generation of sound by ghost which is considered to be a form of energy or energy event should not be an issue here. Thus sound could be generated easily. Yes however someone speaking a very fluent english and trying to communicate something to a person might be a little impossible but still generation of sound should be something acceptable.
(All the above explanations I have mentioned is my own understanding of certain concepts which may or may not be correct). |
| Comment #8 by: British Wart on 18 Dec 2010, 09:53 UTC | reply to this comment | Are th evedences shown are true on the net?Seemed unreal or edited and did anyone experience ghosts??? |
| Comment #9 by: jinxter on 03 May 2011, 02:29 UTC | reply to this comment | who say's they're walking anyway?
In much of the footage I've seen over the years it's ( that's if these anomolies are a "ghost" in the first place ) float in the form of a mist (etc.). And, often again, when an apparition apears they don't have feet and again,.. float. So apply the "laws of physics" to that. |
| Comment #10 by: Vin on 30 Jun 2011, 11:36 UTC | reply to this comment | Ghost does'nt exist in real, its the human brain creating image of the ghost. |
| Comment #11 by: ghostgrrrl exists on 16 Jul 2011, 08:51 UTC | reply to this comment | Light travels at 153,000.00 miles per second. When this light hits a medium/ghosts lets say..misty white ghosts lets say, the speed of light that was once traveling at 153,000.00 mps slows down greatly but because of the nature of this medium...parts of this light will bounce off this medium while whats left of this original light form will absorb into the medium and depending on the angle that this light hit the ghost at...this light will now travel slowly through the ghost/medium until it passes through the ghost at its given angle and then speed up once again. So all these light particles are vibrating and penetrating its medium and just doing what light does....travels and vibrates.
Without this light, we would not be able to see these ghosts. This image we see that the ghost has is being light up and reflected by light particles busting through and being contained and then breaking out. Nothing is solid. So like a flashlight in the fog at night...we only see the mist particles that have trapped the light particles within its medium. And the same happens here again. We only see light because its bouncing off of particles and its the only way it can light up.
* smoke into the ray of a flash light beam at night...move your hand through it fast...the only light you will see is the parts that still have smoke left for the light to penetrate onto...into...and out of.
Now about friction and energy bundles...some ghosts are vibrating so fast that they create an energy field strong enough for the human eye to see them in the dark. A simple explanation is static electricity and how ppl make fire through friction...it heats up and the particles glow and fire up.
Now a really funny thing about ppl who go to church and then yell and scream at you about how crazy u r to believe in ghosts...well, the bible has many crazy stories of ppl living in whales and food multiplying and rape and murder based on a voice that one can't ignore cuz its god telling them to do these things without question.
I believe what I can see and I try to see what it is that I am looking with eyes that will not deceive me and change this thing into something that it is not.
When I see light passing through a mist that is moving against the wind...I can't deny that there is something happening that I just need to get more familiar with in order to form a true opinion. Once upon a time ago...people with birthmarks were considered witches and the good people of the town killed them to protect their land and family. The idea was that if the person drowned...they were innocent of the charges cuz humans can't breath water. People who could get over a cold faster than another would be put to death for making deals with the devil.
This fear I see today by many people who don't believe in ghosts is kind of freaky by nature. Some people will just say that they don't believe in them cuz they havent seen one yet and we al have the right to our beliefs and our opinions just as long as we don't harm others with these. The wind cannot be seen either so??? Lighting strikes were blamed on angry gods tossing them to the ground once upon a time ago.
Nothing is solid...anything that is made up of smaller particles then whats before it can me penetrated. We are not solid. Germs can leak into us. So can gases and poisons etc. Radiation from the sun rays merge into us and its not only from above that this happens...radiation bounces off the ground too at us so it gets us at all angles.
To say that ghosts do not exists is too simple of a statement. Broaden it up so that one can understand the dynamics of your beliefs. "Just cuz!" is ignorant.
We call them ghosts so that the idea of what we are talking about can be related to others more simply. People used to say that they saw demons walking down the road and it must be demons cuz its something we are not familiar with and we haven't seen one before and the ego is so strong that the person thinks they know everything in existence (even though new inventions and discoveries are made all the time) and that the fact that there are two humans that are of a different color are coming this way and since its different...it must be bad and if its bad it must be the devils friend and it doesnt look like me but its challenging my intellect cuz I don't understand it and don't want to appear ignorant in front of the village so I must kill it just in case somebody asks me for an answer about it and since it doesn't fit into my prefabricated life and I can't find it in my log of prefabricated opinions that match the others opinions of course cuz that little sparkle in the head called an original thought is scary and makes me feel like I just may cut out a new path in the woods for others to follow and I just may want to highlight the things on this path that I think others may find interesting and unique instead of sitting and waiting to be told what to choose and how to see it and what to make of it and how to define it and to run far away and never look twice at anything around u or before you that u can't find already written and drawn up and named in that simple little pop up book...yeah...the same one that all the others have that you cling close too and pretend that your island is the only one in this prefab world.
You should act like yourself cuz all the others are already taken. You should think for yourself and accept the fact that all the things that you do because u r told to do it and cuz its the only way you know how to do it cuz you were told so...all began as an original and maybe even and extreme and radical thought when it was finally formed. Somebody had to fight for it and make it survive even though the rest of the people thought they were crazy for doing it...now u just suck off the hard work of another and claim its benefits even if they can't be defined as that...but everybody else does it so that y you do it. You are just a blade of grass in a giant field being looked at by a a person going color blind.
I can't believe the anger and the words that I have been called by so called good church going people when it comes up to my saying that I am excited to live in a day and age where we have the capacity to be able to discover more and more about the universe and the other planets. I believe in ghosts...I call them ghosts defined so others can have a better idea about what I am talking about and others with the same interests will know that I have that too and we can share our stories and talk about the equipment out there that has been able to pick up things that once was only felt emotionally and seen by the personal eye and usually alone. All my equipment has made me proud to say to the world that i believe in something more today then I did before since my meters have gone off after my eyes have seen things and my audio equipment has picked up things that I swear I heard only in my head.
I have been yelled at, almost attacked and verbally abused by these good church people because I say that I believe in the possibility of ghosts. Ghosts by definition let me add. But still thats complex. Theres more than one description like there are saints. I havent attacked anybody who believes in the fact that a man can survive...in a boat...inside the belly of a whale. That kind of runs along the lines of being able to breath under water, right? So if this were a witch trial...the church person would survive the fluid intake into the lungs and not drown.
Ghosts and their ability to communicate, to me, this is a miracle in some way cuz its happening all over the place. Call them demons or what you would like...but until we can discover more and more about their true origin or how they can live beyond the bodies death and more about why they are here with us and at times happen happen to be a family member of ours who have passed or we happened to never have met but can tell you about your family etc....I will call them ghosts and not devils if they are not mean and I will keep trying to discover more and more about their existence with what ever means that I may have...if it works...cool! If a cup falls of my table and I hear the words "ooops sorry about that cup" and then my electro-magnetic meter starts to alarm and blink on and off...then its a ghost who did it...its not the cup thats jumping.
I had lots to say...and I didn't leave anything out. Its my voice and I own it and I have the right to speak my mind and I don't expect everybody to agree with it but im glad that there are some who do. We wouldt have debates or likes or dislikes if the world was filled with just one thing and this one thing only and nothing else can exist if it doesnt fit into the preformed outlines.
Fear is made up more of misunderstandings then the fear itself.
I am trying to write the longest wall of words without punctuation and or spaces. |
| Comment #11.1 by: somebody1 on 02 Aug 2012, 18:33 GMT | Hey, I'm glad for you. I like your perspective on this. Don't believe what other people tell you. You have the right to listen to your voice. I believe in ghosts, and for people who don't believe it, they're either denying it or being ignorant. That's good. You keep researching about ghosts, and just do your thing. You're not hurting anyone. I just can't believe those so-called "Christians" would attack and verbally abuse you. How cruel. I hate those kinds of Christians. I mean, I am one myself, but I dislike the fake Christians who act so innocent and are ignorant when it comes to these types of controversial topics. There's nothing with you believing in what you see or hear. Others don't see/hear/feel what you do because their senses/nerves aren't as sensitive as yours. You might even be psychic. Consider taking notes and researching. You'll learn a lot. Good luck. Stay strong, and listen to yourself. |
| Comment #12 by: Psycho on 21 Jul 2011, 18:15 UTC | reply to this comment | @skeptic ALL religion is false, there is no right religion it's all just made up by stupid fucks that can't go through life unless they have someone telling them what to do, when to do and how to do everything. Christians hate gays, what's their reasoning? "Because god told me."
Err... Did he tell you in that book called the bible that, to be honest, was probably made by a bunch of guys that got * up and wrote down ideas they had for stories or something? I mean come on there are religions with MILLIONS of gods. WHAT THE * ? MILLIONS OF GODS? "What god do you believe in sir?" asks a reporter "Well I believe in Annapurna, Maya, Ram, Garuda, Ganesha, Balrama, Indra, Shakti, Saraswati, Hanuman, Bhuvaneshwari, Brahma, Indra, Kali, Buddha, Shiva, Sita, Dhanwantari, Kartikay, Dhumavati..." Etc.
I mean seriously thats like a god for every word in the English dictionary so don't start talking about religions in a post about ghosts. |
| Comment #13 by: KGB on 07 Nov 2011, 05:01 UTC | reply to this comment | I think it's a bunch of BS. there is no such thing as ghost. |
| Comment #14 by: Mageagle on 08 Nov 2011, 19:39 UTC | reply to this comment | Well how can you explain this. I was in the bathroom of a movie theatre in New York with a friend, she was using the loo and I was standing outside the door talking to her, I saw a man approaching me and I shouted to her that there was a man in the bathroom with us she yelled back for me to be careful, when the man came up along side me he rested himself against my arm and I looked to see if he was going to use a gun or knife on me as I looked down he walked away and went through the wall. I screamed out that it was a ghost and she told me to stop my nonsense. At this point I started to cry and we left she asked me over and over to tell her what I saw and I told her again and again. When we arrived at the hotel we were staying at the telephone was ringing off the hook, her mother was on the other end telling us that our good friend had just died in Florida. Now tell me how did that happen if ghosts (spirits) whatever you want to refer them to does not exist. I am still baffled by this very real experience I was awake in the bathroom and not sleeping standing up not lying down so I was not dreaming. |
| Comment #16 by: Spnge on 04 Jul 2012, 00:02 UTC | reply to this comment | My wife and I were sleeping I then woke up because I felt something was wrong. What I saw was a man like figure crouching over my wife whilst she was asleep. The thing turned it's head towards me and it was bauld, had no eyes, no nose only a mouth. It was covered in what looked like white talcum powder. It realized that I could see it and that I was not scared of it. It then jumped off my wife and ran to the bedroom wall which was covered in a mirror.. When it was at the mirror I saw the shape of the thing it was built like a man about 6 ft tall and had muscular definition on the arms.. It tried desperately to get out through the mirror, then turned to the right and tried to go through the toilet door which was covered with plastic and aluminum .. It still could not get out.. It then turned to it's left and to answer your question stepped through a cupboard wall. |
| Comment #17 by: somebody1 on 02 Aug 2012, 18:43 UTC | reply to this comment | @Lucian Dorneanu
Ok so, you pretty much don't believe in the existence of ghosts. What do you say about psychics who CAN actually see, hear, and feel ghosts, huh? Here you are, slamming a bunch of physic bullcrap to cover up and ignore the fact that ghosts are REAL. Just because you don't see them, it doesn't mean they aren't there. You're like a little kid that likes to just throw around your "smart" science theories. NEWSFLASH: Science can't prove everything! That's the truth. |
| Comment #18 by: Leo on 17 Aug 2012, 02:17 UTC | reply to this comment | What a load of nonsense, you are speaking about matter and atomic structure, ghosts can go through walls and ceiling, often associated with bangs or thuds.......because I have observed this hundreds of times, one set of atoms can pass through another.....depending on type of structure, as such, solid matter is not solid, just a heap of vibrating atoms |
| Comment #19 by: teen wolverine on 11 Oct 2012, 14:44 UTC | reply to this comment | FOR THE WALK THROUGH WALLS AND ON THE FLOOR THEY DON'T WALK, THEY FLOAT NEAR THE SURFACE, THEY ARE DIMENSIONAL TRAVELLERS SO THEY CANT TOUCH ANYTHING EXCEPT THROUGH CONCENTRATION. THEY LIVE IN ANOTHER DIMENSION, BUT THE LIGHT COMES IN THIS ONE. THE OTHER DIMENSION IS THE FOURTH WE CAN ONLY SEE 3D THAT RULE DOESN'T COUNT FOR GHOSTS. AND THE OTHER DIMENSION DOESN'T HAVE GRAVITY. SO THEY CAN FLOAT AND GO THROUGH WALLS BECAUSE TO THEM THEY AREN'T MATERIAL.
LIKE REPTILES THEY ARE COLD, SO THEY WANT HEAT, BUT THEY FEED ON IT, SO IT BURNS OUT. |
| Comment #20 by: rosie on 15 May 2013, 11:42 UTC | reply to this comment | I don't think you can apply the rules of science to the paranormal. I was standing in front of a relative and something - a ghost, an energy force - whatever you want to call it - passed through me, then her, and we were both nearly knocked over by the electrical charge that ran through us. This was in a building known famous for its 'haunted' reputation, Sydney, 2009. | |
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