Egypt itself is a derivative of Ancient Black African Civilizations.
The Olmec, Maya, and Nubian civilizations preceded that of Egypt.
The pyramid building technology started on a smaller scale and was upgraded and refined by Black Africans who built and ruled in Kemet. Black is first and that fact cannot be disputed.

Egypt was a caucasian civilization, blacks were their slaves. Look at Nefertiti or at the other rulers before and after those black imposters. It's like to say that because Obama becomes President of the USA, the archeologists of the future should think that the USA were an african civilization. Afrocentrism is ignorance.

directed to the persons comment above...1st of all you should always know your history before you speak on anything. Egyptians were not white, or black. The skins of an Egyptians was light, but NOT WHITE. And if you any Egyptian if they are white they will without an doubt tell you NO. Look at this link (pictures of Egyptians)https://dart.columbia.edu/library/muso1031/muso1031_view.jpg
Now, Nubians were black Egyptians, and how could this be ignored...duh....Egypt is in AFRICA ansd STILL IS. The Nubians were of a darker color, and they live on a totally different area from the Egyptians.

DNA refutes your stupidity
get up to date! See articles in TIME magazine, scientific papers and special shows on PBS, frontline, nova

I think it is not a big deal, it is understandable that "Kemet" means black land, one would never call himself black if they are not. It is also a fact that the Persian came of course and most probably defeated the Africa Blacks, so when we talk about the 25th dynasty, it wasnt conquering he was regaining his power. About Obama, that is totaly out of concept, Obama's father comes from Africa, you can say that the archeologist were black, I think that doesnt make sense. Today in North America, the majority is White, Was N. America white before? but migration, same way like the persian coming to Africa. Look at the statues like of Imhotep, does he look Caucasian, his features is typical African. And he is the first person who started the maths of the pyramids, a medical doctor and was worshiped as God.
Would you call yourself "kemet" the modern Egypt if you are not Kemet which means Black?

the real Pharaohs were Somalies ,Tutsis,Oromo, Nubies.they used to worship the sun as thier God ,when the curses of mosses happened to them they moved to east inorder to meet their God (the sun )untill they reach the the land of Punt(Somalia).
Whether any body like it or not Profet Mosses use to speake Somali language (the language of Pharaoes)up to now you can find in Somalia every tool that the pharaoes used.
the mother of all Somalies were Israels our kingdom used to kill the Israeli boys and spare the girls untill Mosses safed them from us and thats why we are suffering untill today.
Pharaos were blacks and not every black but Somalies, who ever say that Somalies were Arabs is wrong.we are more Israel than Arabs and our Pharao names were changed because of the religion we took Islam.
Somalies are the children of black father and Israel mother and we have many thinks in common(early Somali names like Igal, Aviv,Rabbi and many more).
The truth cannot be denied it will tell by its self !

@Marco...That bust of Nefertiti is a hoax. The reliefs on the temples show her of being African in phenotype. The ancient Egyptians were Africans not Europeans or Caucasians. When Egypt was first built there were no civilized Caucasians on Earth. White folks are only about 6K yrs old as they came about via the last ice age period due to a genetic mutation. The 1st people in Europe were Africans then the pressure of the environment from the cooling of the Earth caused the Africans in Europe to mutate and lose their pigmentation due to the lack of vitamin D and daily sunlight. There were only a small amount of Africans who migrated up to Europe and many of them died off due the sickness they went thru during the ice age. There has been remains that indicate that they were also cannibals which makes sense as food would have been scarce during the ice age period. Also it would have taken many yrs for a population to develop to build anything in significance. Also there is no development of any pyramids that rival those of Egypt and Nubia in Europe. The only thing that is close is the Bosnia pyramid and there is no proof of who built it. Logic would tell you that they had to be Africans if it date back to prior the ice age as there were no white people around. And America was first colonized by Africans. There have been artifacts and bones found of Africans that date back over 10K yrs ago in America. Now back to the Egyptians their origins are from South East Africa via the lower part of the Nile. Even DNA of modern day Egyptians especially in the South is of Haplogroup E-YDNA and Haplogroup L-mtdna which are both East African in origin...not European. So the only one who is ignorant is you. And Afrocentrism is not a bad term as technically speaking everyone on Earth deep down inside is African as Africa is the birth place of humanity and we can all trace our DNA back to AFRICA!

I see white racists are at it again, Ancient Egyptians by American classifications of race were Black, their neighbours to the south[sudan] were simply darker skinned than your average black person and they still are. Modern day Egyptians on the other hand look nothing like ancient Egyptians due to mixing with the Romans and Arabs over thousands of years. I've been to Egypt and by and large it's an Arab country. In conclusion we all know that civilazation started in Africa, genetic science has proven that modern man first appeared in Africa therefore the negroe is man in his most potent form, the way God created us, in his image...Black

well, you think that the Pharaohs are not the Christians in Egypt who name themselves Copts, the Roman distortion of the word "Egyptian", right?

If what your saying is true, then white people have evolved from blacks as superior beings.

You don't know what you talking about because you are confused. If Egypt is in Africa and Africans are so-called blacks, then Egyptian pharaohs were black. Africa was colonised by Arabs, whites etc. Obama is the product of the black slaves of African origin and he is an American ruler just because he is a democratic politician in the white colonised land of the so-called red Indians. If there was any white pharaoh in Egypt he or she was a colonist. It is the culture of whites and Arabs etc to colonise other nations and their countries and re-interpret their histories to fool the world. I believe Jesus and Moses etc. were black people as I believe all the real pharaohs were black people. You see, if the suez canal was not built you would see and understand that Africa, Israel, Arabia etc were one and all these people were of dark skin colour because of their geographic position. Therefore all true pharaohs were of dark skin and had African characteristics.

Kush ,I think you statement is completely and utterly incorrect about Obama, his father was pure blood African from (Kenya as i recall, correct me if i am wrong ???) and his mother was white Caucasian from America, so your prediction that he is the is the produce of American slavery is fallacy. FACT

Well said Oday, I really don't have anything to add to this because you covered it all, It's a shame there are several people like Marco who thinks the Pharaohs were Whites, but I guess he is only talking from what he see's from Tv and the Cartoon network, Once again well said Oday.

YOU CALLED IT RIGHT EUROPEANS WERE NEVER EGYPTAINS THEY MIXED IN LATER.ITS
TOO HOT FOR THE WHITE SKIN TO SURVIVE THERE IN THE HEAT! DO THE MATH!

I just think that truth is a derivertive or derived of reallity. That's why you all seem so sincere. But the reallity that is and cannot be anything other than real and does not need truth to prove it self. Is buried in the catacomb's of the vatican, unaccessable vaults of various museums of the world, at the bottom of the Aswan river,ect. Funny is it not that when building of any type unearths something of arciological interest building work has to stop in the name of preservation. But the true evidence(REALLITY) is either destroyed,covered up or buried at the bottom of a dam. Reallity seen or unseen does not need truth to prove it self. For it will prove it self time and time again.The european know nothing of sharing and acceptance he is destructive and a plagiariser of the highest order. Why so called afrocentric idears are breaking out is that our slave master are no longer our teachers. And blind faith is no longer acceptable. We have our own black consious historian scientis and alike. so you better get used to it. as reallity is what you object to not truth, REALLITY.

Thesis- Egypt and Nubia two of the greatest empires in ancient times had many of the same characteristics that defined them for example they both depended on each other for economic pourpuses and for tecnological advances. They'r kingdoms depended on the Nile River to grow food and as a source for water.

Just to comment on the above
he didnt say white he said caucasian
which Egyptians would be classified as

By who's standards? Some racist "schoolars" of the 18th and 19th century? Look at the map. Take a good long look, egypt is smack dab in Africa allong side lybia, Chad and Sudan . Nearest middle eastern countries. It is not near countries that caucasians reside or decend from. Egypt is a country of Africa not Europe.

Well, just ask an Egyptian is he or she is african and see what they say..I'll tell you either no because they don't believe they are OR like i think no one want to be black. Which is why every black person i know they always tell you they are half something else.

Truth is sometimes very difficult to say by people who had something to hide,but for how long? They now know the likelihood of GOD'S first image of man has been found in CENTRAL OF AFRICA,the youngest king on earth so love by GOD married from Egypt ,a black royal woman from the throne of pharoah before marrying Sheba of Ethiopia and who does not know should ask who took and kept the ARK OF THE CONVERNANT in ETHIOPIA UNTIL HIS SECOND COMING? He is an ETHIOPIAN PHAROAH ,that speaks for itself The LORD'S CROSS was carried by TWO PEOPLE,who was the other?EGYPT IS AFRICAN AND WHO IS AN AFRICAN IN THE REAL SENSE OF AFRO?

You are believing the old lies and propaganda put out there by the old school scholars. Hawass is a part of that group also and with him running the DNA test of Tut we will never know if Tut is a Sub Saharan African. They will never admit that there was a black culture who where able to build the greastest civilization on earth. For example King tut's tomb had two life size color statues at the entrance to his tomb clearly showing he was black. Dna testing on Cleopatra's sister proved that Cleopatra was of Sub Saharan African decent she was the last of the Pharaohs. The scholars have always swore she was Greek. Not wanting the most powerful and deisrable woman in the world to be of Sub Saharan African decent. Now National geographic finally admits that Black Pharaohs only ruled for 75 years give me a break.

I see that you too have not done research on this subject. But just look at the Bible and take a glance at the table of nations; Genesis 10th chapter. White or caucasians are descendents of Japhet, which migrated to Europe. The Cushites are descendents of Ham, along with Misriam, whose people were the ancients Egyptians. Psalms 105:23 also affirms this by calling Egypt the land of Ham. Meaning the descendents of Ham, which are Black people and the ancients Egptians. Cush was Misraim's older brother, so the the ancients Egyptians and Nubians(Cushite;Kush), were cousins (literally). With the same Grandpareants. In conclusion, the ancient Egyptians were Hamites, along with Black people, they were not caucasians or white.

Wow, where is everyone's source of facts coming from? Anyone not have a single piece of evidence to support the debate either way? I believe archeologist have enough evidence of Egypt's 332 known pharoah's to document them in textbooks to teach to future archeologist. I recommend everybody read one. Anyway the debate is silly and is answered with out words, simply look at the skin color on well preserved ancient Egyptian hyroglyphs. The Egyptains are not lying to you, I swear!!!

Excuse My ignorance, I meant by looking at a pictograph not hieroglyph, which I misspelled:)

Oh, please! Shem, Ham and Japeth were part of Hebrew folklore. The Bible was not written until hundreds of years after events were supposed to have happened and, like most oral histories, they improved with the telling.

The Nubians were Egypt's major trading partner. They took over the running of Egypt to save the country from itself. Egypt was too important to Nubia to let it collapse.


The Coptic Egyptians were there before the Nubians invaded and they are still there. The Nubians governed Egypt for a time, they did not indulge in genocide any more than the Romans did in England.

I do agree

Who ever they were matters to a lot of people, the only credible links to who they really were related to remains in their speech. They spoke an extinct language we call in Turkana Ngakaram (Nga-ka-Ram) meaning "The language of Ram". This language was the language of the old world and unified all people on earth. Here are some of its basis roots:

RA - The state of being; becoming
MIS - Care
BUR - Cover; exhaust
KA - Abode; of; and
NAM - sea: from whom the word Anamim in Hebrew (A-NAM-IM) comes from (meaning The sea people)
KIM - fire: from whom the word Anakim (of fire) is derrived
PI - water
SEM - Watch; see; inspect
RAM - herd; strike: from whom the pastoral and warring Arameans derive their name.
SAB - Exceed
GA - block; shield
TA - Source (of growth)

They were the people of AM, the distant land; distinct from the ancestors of The Turkana.

The ancient Egyptians were black. See the evidence of the drawings, and even the Negroid features of the sphinx.
Egypt is derived from Ka Ptah, read Ka Ptah in Luo (an african language) meaning the home of enlightment. It is also interesting to note that pharaoh comes from the original word for " palace" (par ra) meaning home of ra in LUO. Ra was the sun god, and the pharaos were also believed to be children of the sun God.the first paraoh was Mene ( called Menya in Luo).
Incedentally, Obama is also LUo.

it amazes me how the world is sharing their ideologies and opinions on the beloved land which is afrqiyah,kemet,taway,alkebulan,aphros,tAMERI,ethiopia..if u look at the dialect and language of several ancient peoples, you will find that kemi or quema means "to burn", which gives rise to countless connotations..the word for black symbolizes that which shines so bright, it blinds and illuminates with incredible heat..this is referred to as the solar system or the sun system..our ancient name reflects the sun and everything associated with heat..this is why all our attributes such as afro/aphro , negro/nigga/ ,black all mean the purest form of light or the radiant one..look up the word (fulgent) in the dictionary and u will c that it is cross referenced with black, a word that europeans have changed to conceal the true essence of their teachers and original rolemodels..fulgent means to be so dazzling bright that it is flagrant and glaring, to shine and be luminous..kemet is found nesting in hebrew and arabic with kamare, a word denoting to be black, beloved of re, to yearn for with great passion, to be a high priest of re..this is why the sanskrit word (kama sutra) means manual or book of love..the term "kama" is clearly our name with just a slight variation in the spelling..this isnt nothing new, since letters and tones of the tongue fluctuate to fit that proper culture and region.black is the principle from which all sprang, and the ancient egyptians as they are now termed reflected this in their writings, their nature, and in their systems..our language has the fruit of knowledge, wisdom, and understanding within it ,and we applied it to our everyday life in africa..the euros know they stole our system and assimilated it into their daily regime..they know that we are the first fruits of the earth and that words have a say so in the story being manifested..the spanish even know us by quemare which to them means to burn, but it is a direct variation of kamare, which means beloved, to be black, great passion and desire, high priest of re..u tell me if love has a color and i will show u the ancient system of kemet, the greatest people on earth..love shows us that we are property of a greater calling, a higher purpose, a more in depth antiquity..we are so caught up attempting to clown the euros and the arab kind, that we neglect to use their own language against them..how many of us or u know our affectionate names:Children of the sun

You just said nothing..i read it waiting for a point and none was made.. i bet i can guess what race you belong to ..bullshheet artist

The truth is, the first Egyptians were actually white. They were known as the Shepherd Kings. 12 of the 16 Pharoah's were white. The down fall of the Egyptian civilization is when the black Nubians took over. The last four Pharoah's were two women and two blacks. Blacks have never established a culture or a civilization in their entire 9,000 year existence. If they are so smart and so wonderful, how come all of their countries are so poverty stricken, Look at Haiti. At one time it was the most wealthy country of the Caribbean. This is when the Frenck ruled. The Haitains rose up against the French and slaughtered every man, woman, and child. Since then, Haiti has become a cease pool. Only the white race, specficially israel, has cultures and civilizations have been created. All black countries have proven that they are not capable of any advancement. A good case in point is South Africa. Whites were in South Africa before the blacks every migrated their. After Nelson Mandella took over, the country turned into a blood bath. Blacks are killing whites just because they are white. Even know the whites in South Africa have to carry weapons where ever they go because they are hunted by blacks. Nelson Mandella even sings songs about killing whites. The whites are God's chosen people. They are Israel, and they will survive while the blacks will be slaughtered.

My goodness, all this knowlege around you and you still cling to this bigoted way of thinking, please tell me you where paid for this ignorant statment, because than, i can understand, Let us get this clear ( MAN STARTED IN AFRICA, IN THE MIDST IF THIS CREATION, WAS THE GARDEN OF EDEN, WHICH IS MOTHER AFRICA, THE CENTER OF THE WORLD. THIS IS THE TRUTH,,,. Now you can believe the truth, or you can keep bowing to that BLOND HAIR, BLUE EYED JESUS THAT YOU PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH OFTERN DO, to hide your inadequateness, even in your bible, you still choose to beleived what you want, The african or black american was thought of so highly that he was created in GODS own image, JESUS was described as skin of bronze, hair like lambs wool, and eyes red like fire, well there you have it, (BUT LIKE THEY SAY, A MAN THAT SPEAKS THE TRUTH OFTEN TALKS TO HIMSELF, AMEN.

the current egyptian government are reaping where they did not sow as far as tourism especially where pyramids and other ancient artifacts are concerned.Infact the illegal,immoral and criminal proceeds from these tomb/temple inversion/commercialization should be turned over to southern black people since they are the rightful owners of the sites

I believe you'll have to answer for every word of illness..... of this writing you've written. Stay tuned.... As the world turns and people of different color arise and evolve as before in Egypt (current uprising) and Israel (people looking a lil bit tanner by the day), you're writing of this written paragraph you've blogged will show you wanting to change your writings....and maybe your complexion as well.

Only a ignorant white person would say such a thing. The first race on the planet was from Africa. All races evolved from the one true race, Black Africans. Egypt is in Africa. Now before the pale Arabs and Caucasoid came to take what was not theirs, The pharaohs were dark skinned, bigged nosed, big lipped Africans! Beautiful and original. The richest and most cultured, the invaders came to learn from these intelligent, scientist, astronomist and alchemist in Egypt, who were dark skinned melanin filled negroid people. However when they realize the knowledge and power, they wanted it for themselves, and just like every other place around the world, they killed, raped, stole and enslaved to get they wanted. Barbaric animalistic race. Egypt had electricity and all the knowledge of the world. Having no idea that such a race could be so evil, they were naive and let the other pale races mix in and learn until they took over. Then Napoleon saw all the black faces in the hieroglyphs and statues and was amazed. so he destroyed and desecrated our story to implant that Caucasians were the brilliance behind the magnificence of Ancient Egypt. That is fact.

All you people of african decent keep saying everyone evolved from black that came first..but if thats true and we believe darwinism when something evolves and nature selects the fitist to survive then whites who evolved from black are a better form of human. Lets see they can live in the cold, don't get as hungry, work longer hours without being whipped and don't kill based on the width of someones elses nose. And i agree with the last fellow there isnt a self ruling black country anyone with a brain wants to visit..How do you go from supposedly being so great to self defeating, look at the free blacks today in the U.S. they are their own worst enemies. Two blacks can't look at each other without wanting to kill the other..maybe it's the image they seeee

Mohamed - Somaliland

I wonder why most scluptures or monuments in Egypt have no nose on them or chopped off noses, the reason is to hide the thruth, you understand what I mean?, here in Somaliland can you bleave we have pyramids who can say we have imported them from Egypt?

Do you also know the only Somalilander who used to write about Pharaohs in egypt his book was sensored and kept even from him by the British establishment, the reason was the egyptians asked Britain to sensor this Book which was telling in detail the pharaohs and who they realy are. - Black decent. not Arabs

What on Earth are you talking about!!! I"m Black and I work with blacks and live with black and we do not want to kill each other.... May I suggest that you watch a series called "Investigative ID" and see how many white people kill each other every day. (ALL for greed). Husbands killing their wives and children killing their perents, wives and girl freinds killing either husbands or boyfriends, friends killing each other for stupid reasons.
Look at your must dangerous serial killers are white (Jeffrey Doomer) and the list goes on. So tell me "WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT"!!!!!!!!

it's not surprising to see none-black people laying claim to the Nile River Valley early civilization,the fact is that people will always want to identify themselves with the best.It will never be erased that the Black civilization that was situated between Meroe (Sudan)and the Medeterrenian Sea (Nile Delta) was,is ,and will alwayas be the best,and remember that the very people and language of this civilization are still very much alive and spoken by variuos Black African people scattered all over the continent of Africa and beyond.And for a start contact the so called Nilotic People of the Sudan,DRC,Ethiopia,Unganda,Kenya Tanzania and West Africa. Also for Obama being the president of the most powerful nation on Earth was just a confirmation of the testament-the Nile Valley phenomenon.Otherwise the meaning of the name of pharaoh AKENATOUN(Luo-acholi word for -an kena- tuon)translates as-AM THE ONLY LORD.Have a nice night!

Herodotus The Father Of History On Black Egypt In Histories (167).

"There can be no doubt that the Colchians are an
Egyptian race. Before I heard any mention of the
fact (from others), I had remarked it myself. After
the thought had struck me, I made inquiries on
the subject both in Colchis and in Egypt, and I
found that the Colchians had a more distinct recollection
of the Egyptians, than the Egyptians had
of them. Still the Egyptians said that they believed
the Colchians to be descended from the army of
Sesostris. My own conjectures were founded,
first, on the fact that they are (black-skinned and
have woolly hair), which certainly amounts to but
little, since several other nations are so too; but
further and more especially, on the circumstance
that the (Colchians, the Egyptians, and the
Ethiopians, are the only nations who have practiced
circumcision from the earliest times.)

Herodotus noted Egypt antiquity in relation to Greece and noted Egypts advanced learning system. He specifically mentioned geometry, land measurement, solar calendar, 12-part year, mummification and religion.

Vivant Denon on the the Sphinx before Napoleon had his troops deface it. Before the centuries wore down some of the more prominent features of the figure:

"...Though its proportions are colossal, the outline is pure and graceful; the expression of the head is mild, gracious, and tranquil; the character is (African), but the mouth, and lips of which are thick, has a softness and delicacy of execution truly admirable; it seems real life and flesh. Art must have been at a high pitch when this monument was executed; for, if the head wants what is called style, that is the say, the straight and bold lines which give expression to the figures under which the Greeks have designated their deities, yet sufficient justice has been rendered to the fine simplicity and character of nature which is displayed in this figure...".

Count Augustin de Volney on Black Egypt:

"All the Egyptians, have a bloated face, puffed-up eyes, flat nose, thick lips – in a word, the true face of the mulatto. I was tempted to attribute it to the climate, but when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says:

'As for me, I judge the Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly hair...' "In other words, the ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native-born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood, mixed for several centuries with that of the Greeks and Romans, must have lost the intensity of its original color, while retaining nonetheless the imprint of its original mold." He went on to say.. ."that this race of Black men, today our slave and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, sciences, and even the use of speech! Just imagine, finally, that it is in the midst of people who call themselves the greatest friends of liberty and humanity that one has approved the most barbarous slavery, and questioned whether Black men have the same kind of intelligence as whites!"

Diodorus Siculus who traveled to Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract.

Diodorus :

"They (the Ethiopians) say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris ["King of Kings and God of Gods] having been the leader of the colony . . . they add that the Egyptians have received from them, as from authors and their ancestors, the greater part of their laws." Diodorus's declared intention to trace the origins of the cult of Osiris, alias the Greek Dionysus also commonly known by his Roman name Bacchus. The Homeric Hymn "To Dionysus" locates the birth of Dionysus in a mysterious city of Nysa "near the streams of Aegyptus" (Hesiod 287). Diodorus cites this reference as well as the ancient belief that Dionysus was the son of Ammon, king of Libya (3.68.1), and much of Book 3 of the Bibliotheka Historica is devoted to the intertwined histories of Dionysus and the god-favored Ethiopians whom he believed to be the originators of Egyptian civilization.

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)

Diodorus in Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3) on the Kushites "Aithiopians" of Meroe.

"Now they relate that of all people the Aithiopians [Ethiopians] were the earliest, and say that the proofs of this are clear. That they did not arrive as immigrants but are the natives of the country and therefore rightly are called authochthonous is almost universally accepted. That those who live in the South are likely to be the first engendered by the earth is obvious to all.

Diodorus continues:

"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity,"

"The Aithiopians [Ethiopians] say that the Egyptians are settlers from among themselves and that Osiris was the leader of the settlement.The customs of the Egyptians, they say, are for the most part Aithiopian, the settlers having preserved their old traditions. For to consider the kings gods, to pay great attention to funeral rites, and many other things, are Aithiopian practices, and also the style of their statues and the form of their writing are Aithiopian. Also the way the priestly colleges are organized is said to be the same in both nations. For all who have to do with the cult of the gods, they maintain, are [ritually] pure: the priests are shaved in the same way, they have the same robes and the type of scepter shaped like a plough, which also the kings have, who use tall pointed felt hats ending in a knob, with the snakes that they call the asp (aspis) coiled round them."

Philosopher Aristotle and tutor of Alexander the great:

"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two."
(Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)

"Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair."
(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317)

In Greek writer Lucians work: A conversation between two Greeks.

Lycinus (of an Egyptian): "This boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin . . . his hair worn in a plait behind shows that he is not a freeman."

Timolaus: "But that is a sign of really distinguished birth in Egypt, Lycinus, All freeborn children plait their hair until they reach manhood. It is the exact opposite of the custom of our ancestors who thought it seemly for old men to secure their hair with a gold brooch to keep it in place."
(Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3)

Diogenes Laertius on Zeno founder of the stoic school:

"Zeno son of Mnaseas or Demeas was a native of Citium in Cyprus, a Greek city which has taken in some Phoenician colonists.' In his Lives, Timotheus of Athens describes Zeno as having a twisted neck. Apollonius of Tyre says of him that he was gaunt, very tall and black, hence the fact that, according to Chrysippus in the First Book of his Proverbs, certain people called him an (Egyptian) vine-shoot.

Ammianus Marcellinus writes:


". . .the men of Egypt are mostly brown and black with a skinny and desiccated look.

Think of the curse of Ham. Europeans spent centuries trying to prove that Africans were inferior in order to easily carry out many of the atrocities they would commit against them. The curse however was not on Ham but on his son Canaan, who would forced to serve his brothers. Ham had four sons. His son Canaan would become the Canaanites in modern day Arabia, which geologically is as much a part of Egypt as Tanzania. Another son was Phut who would become the Phutites where modern day Lybia. Another was Kush who would become the Kushites in Ethiopia. The fourth was Mizraim who would become Egypt. So how is it that this story was used to say that blacks were meant to be slaves while simultaneously attempting to extricate Egypt from Africa? Europeans tried to de-emphasize that Egypt was called Kemit, the black land. Most likely after Ham himself who was also called Khem or Kam in other tongues.

Truth, keep telling us the truth! Western historians have degraded africans for over 300 years!

This did not answer my question :(

Please note that Pa means 'home of' in Luo. Ra was a sun god. Rao also means hippo in Luo. There is a place called Paraa in Uganda, along the Nile, named in Luo. Paraa is equal to Pharaoh in meaning and it is Luo. The Luo in Uganda moved along the Nile from Upper Egypt after Arab invasion. The Luo are associated with the Nile - Pi. You find the Luo in Ethiopa, the Anwak, in Congo, the Alur, in Uganda, the Alur, Acholi, Jopadhola, Palwo and also in Kenya and Tanzania, as the Luo. Pharaoh is a Luo name, ask any Luo, they will interprete it for you. It is not a Latin word.

It is so sad to be my age of 66 and just learning such beaufitul history of The Black Male. The Black Man. Of course there had to have been Black Pharaohs. There is always The Head in any group of people whether male of female. I hate the word history. Who's story? Humans have always been blinded as HIStory is told.

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Good day ALL, this exchange of information is very interesting. Fact, Egypt is in Africa, Thus Egyptians are African. However, that does not mean Egyptians were Nubian, especially Pre Dynasty thru the 18th Dynasty. Scientists have DNA evidence to support Ramasess and his mother along with other Phaorahs were caucasian which supports the theory that early Pharoahs were African by geography, but Not Nubian. Meaning, caucasian! Caucasian would be defined as Euro-Asian gentics. If you look at the early depictions of the Pharoahs and Queens, they have caucasian features, some more Asian then Euro. Conversely, in the later dynasty drawings, (after centuries of mixing), the features of the statues start to become more Nubian in nature. By the 25 dynasty, All Nubian and No caucasian. For example, in New York City, the Caucasians immigrated to Manhattan, then into Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens and Staten Island in the 1600s. After one fifty years, white flight occured in the late 1940s early 1950s where caucasians moved to the suburbed and were replaced by Low or No earner Nubians. If a portrait were taken today of lets say, Bedford - Stuvescent, Bushwich, Crown Heights, Flatbush, East York, the Nubian features would appear in every aspect of life. You would never believe Caucasians ever lived in those hoods! However, if you were to rewind the clock 60 years and earlier, then depiction would be exact opposite with Caucasian. Fact: Throughout history, Caucasians have built Pyraminds in the form of large projects (Wall of China, Empire State Building, Tower of Pizza, Panama Canal ect...) There is NO history of Nubians who have built anything on the scale of a pyramide in a pure Nubian countries. Nothing! Every Nation that has a large Nubian population or where the Nubian Gene is prevelent in the world, is a Third world Nation. Poor! No Kings or Pharoahs!! Why is that? If the Nubians built the pyramids, why wasn't this knowledge passed down from generation to generation. If the Blacks of today were of Royal heritage, then why can't these lazy bastards keep a job nor keep their pants up around their wasits (SAGGIN)? It makes no logical sense that a Culture or Race can embrace so much intelegence, then be less then Zero 2000 years later. No Dignity, No Slef Esteem, No Self worth, No Real Power. Like the rap song goes, Money, Power and Respect. All of which Nubians do not possess. The only fields Nubians have succeeded in are, Rapping, Producing babies in fatherless homes, Buying 24 inch Rims, Selling Crack and living off the system. No King or Pharoah Lives like that!You can argue, the Romans and Greeks lost everything! Yes, as a Nation, but as a Race, the caucasian's knowledge was/is past on to the next generation of caucasians and another dynasty of caucasian champions rule today. This is not the case with Nubian Africans. Very typical of the Culture, the people. Nubians in general have have a tendency gain something then quickly lose it (Called * Rich) like so many fatherless families. Even Obama, he's a typical product of a African Nubian. His African Nubian father left his family. In the early 1970 American Afrocentrics started this * ideology that African (Nation/Nationalty)is the same as Nubian (Race) which is not the case!!! You can be born in Africa and not be Nubian!

The Ancient Egyptians were of South East African descent as DNA evidence of modern Egyptians especially in the Upper Egypt is of haplogroup E-YDNA and haplogroup L -MtDNA which are both East African in origin. Nubians are haplogroup E-YDNA and haplogroup L-MtDNA same with West Africans and Afro-Americans. Learn how to read a genetic map before you tell fairy tales. Ancient Egypt was started by black Africans who migrated from the lower part of the Nile up thru modern day Nubia/Sudan then into Kemet/Egypt. Even Keith Steele an European archaeologist found artifacts in Nubia that predated the Old Kingdom of Ancient Egypt that had hieroglyphs on them. Robert Bauval has written a book called "Black Genesis" which speaks of this and the Nabta Playa calender. Nubia is older than Egypt. There were no white people on the Earth when Ancient African civilizations were being built ie Nubia then Egypt. There has even been a 160-200K yr old civilization found in S. Africa so that takes African history way back further then Egypt and Nubia. AFRICANS are old the oldest people on the Earth. And Africans were the 1st people in Europe, India, China, & America. White people are only about 6K yrs old and when they were around some 6K yrs ago via last Ice Age they were not civilized enough to build an advanced civilization like Egypt. And no OFFICIAL DNA results have been released on any Egyptian mummies. Also not every Nubian is jet black, Africans come in variety of hues and phenotypes they are the most diverse ethnic group on the Earth. Technically speaking were are all AFRICANS as life originated in Africa then people migrated out of Africa eventually undergoing genetic mutations due to the pressure from the environment. We can all trace our MtDNA back to Africa...Mt meaning Mitochondrial (maternal).

And Ramses which is a Greek term his real name was Usermaatrasetepenra was during the 19th Dynasty so your comparison of ancient Egypt not being Nubian from the beginning is pointless. And not every African has thick lips and broad noses. Go study Africans today they are the most diverse ethnic group on Earth. Egypt was a metropolis of Africans. There was no admixture until foreign invasions. And the first invaders were Asiatics not Europeans. We get the term Semitic which means AFRO-Asiatic not Euro-Asiatic. And Caucasians did not build the Great Wall of China...Chinese built that Great Wall of China to keep barbaric tribes ie Europeans out of China. Most of the buildings in America were built by Africans who were used as slaves. And 5K yrs ago Africans were living in peace in America they built pyramids and mounds along the Mississippi Valley. As far a lazy it was whites who were lazy thats why they needed slaves. Hell even Europeans enslaved themselves the Romans owned over 3M slaves and most of them were white. Slave is a slavic term. The Slavs were enslaved by the Khazars. Without the knowledge of Africans the Caucasians would not have had * , even the Egyptians taught the Greeks & Romans. Heck the Greeks borrowed their numbers from the Egyptians, BBC has reported an article on that. Now you down play blacks but you fail to look at what white people are out here doing today ie trailor trash, hilly billy's, etc. You are just mad and ungrateful. You are like a child who does not appreciate the things that their parent has done for them. Africans are the parent race not Europeans/Caucasians. GROW UP!

So blacks invented slavery, did they not enslave the Jews? If the blacks would not have invented slavery, then perhaps they themselves would not have been inslaved in America

The ANCIENT Egyptians were Caucasians! NOT Sub Saharan Negroes