i thnks is stinks. i can't stand the way the customer is always force fed crap from sony. plus why in the world would choose a more expensive format when both are idential on the screen. this is movies we are talking about. not how may programs will fit on the disc. to be honest i don't think most people really care about all the extras. they just want a good picture and sound and yes both formats did that. just hd dvd did it a whole lot cheaper and more reliable. thanks again sony for the more expensive piece of crap and undeveloped technology.