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Vista SP2 and Windows 7 by the End of June 2009

Ballmer indicates new client operating system releases by July of next year

By Marius Oiaga, Technology News Editor

18th of October 2008, 11:20 GMT

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 The evolution of the Windows client, involving both Windows Vista (now with Service Pack 1) and Windows 7, appears to be closer than Microsoft is ready to acknowledge officially. Of course, Windows XP, even with Service Pack 3, is the past, with the exception of customers abandoning Windows Vista by exercising their downgrade rights. Windows Vista, even with SP1, is a present that makes the future seem to not get here fast enough. And Vista SP2 along with Windows 7 and Windows Cloud (Strata) are the future. But at the same time, both Vista SP2 and Windows 7 are nothing more than the evolution of Vista, to a lesser, and respectively a larger degree. 

Come the end of October 2008, and the start of November, Microsoft will deliver a rather consistent taste of where it is heading with Windows, not only Windows 7, but also Windows 7 Server and Windows Strata (the label continues to be unconfirmed by the company). Events such as the Professional Developer Conference 2008, Windows Hardware Conference 2008 and TechEd EMEA will be focused on Windows 7 and Windows Cloud, although less on Windows Vista.

While at TechEd Brasil, at the start of this week, Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer indicated that the company planned to unveil a range of new products by July 2009. Microsoft's CEO mentioned that, by the end of June 2009, the software giant would offer "client operating system releases." Microsoft is, of course, already cooking Windows Vista SP2 and Windows 7.

Ballmer stated that "Microsoft technologies: Windows, Windows Server, .NET, Visual Studio, Silverlight, SharePoint, Office (...) over the course of the 12 month period that ends June of next year, [are] just a subset of all of the exciting new innovations Microsoft will bring to market: client operating system releases, information management tools, security, gaming products and systems. The range of new technologies in some senses is growing and growing quickly." (emphasis added)


Windows Vista Service Pack 2 (SP2)

Microsoft released Windows Vista RTM at the end of January 2007, not counting the business launch of the operating system in November 2006. Vista SP1 was released to manufacturing on February 4, 2008 concomitantly with Windows Server 2008, but was only made available for download starting March 18. Now the Redmond company has already moved onward to Service Pack 2.

In fact Vista SP2 invites to the Beta program have already started to be sent out, according to Neowin. It is not Windows Vista SP2 that Microsoft is cooking, but also Windows Server 2008 SP2, Beta invites for which have also been sent out. Microsoft has yet to confirm anything officially, but the first Beta bits for Windows Vista SP2 and Windows Server 2008 SP2 are reportedly going to testers in just four weeks.

Still, while Service Pack 1 was the catalyst that took Vista RTM out of coma, making the operating system worthy of a long forgotten and discarded Wow label, SP2 is bound to be nothing more than a standard service pack release. At best, SP2 will take Vista forward just as much as SP1.

The equation is rather simple for Microsoft. The company will end up with a repeat of the Windows XP SP2 – Windows Vista scenario in which both operating systems are available at the same time on the market, although this situation would involve Vista SP2 and Windows 7 RTM. The last thing that Microsoft needs is to evolve Vista with SP2 sufficiently enough that it will be capable to rival Windows 7. In this context, the answer is rather simple. The Redmond giant needs to keep Vista at a relative stand-still even with SP2, and focus all innovation on Windows 7.


Windows 7, or Windows 6.1, or Windows Vista R2, or Windows Vista but "a lot better"

The seventh major version of Windows, but only according to Microsoft's math, comes with no differentiation between the codename and the brand. However, Windows 7 will, for the sake of perpetuating the existing level of Vista software compatibility, be in fact Windows 6.1. At the same time, according to Ballmer, Windows 7 will be Vista, but “a lot better.” This makes Windows 7 an excellent candidate for the Windows Vista R2 label, just as Windows 7 Server is in fact Windows Server 2008 R2. Still, the early feedback on the Windows 7 moniker indicates that the management of the Windows 7 project made the right choice.

"There you have it, Windows 7 now has a name. It’s called – Windows 7,” revealed Steve Clayton, Microsoft's UK Partner Group CTO. “To be honest I was quite surprised but also pretty pleased. The naming decision as Mike Nash says is about simplicity. It’ll certainly save us from all having to unlearn the name we’ve all had for it to date. I expect this naming decision will be debated to death on all the usual sites, but me, I’m just happy we settled on a name. Now let’s get to the PDC and get the bits!"

"Win7 to officially be called . . . Win7" said Robert Hensing, Microsoft security software engineer. "I actually for once - LOVE that we are keeping the name of the OS simple and leaving it at Win7. I will admit – I was somewhat disappointed when XP's name was announced internally (internally it was known as Whistler) and I was downright horrified when we decided to call Longhorn "Vista" (my friends call it "Veesta"). Longhorn sounds cool . . . manly . . . Vista is pretty much the exact opposite in my mind . . . it sounds serene and 'pretty'."

"Steve Ballmer was at Gartner's Symposium/ITxpo conference today, talking about a number of issues. The big question was about Vista deployments and what should companies do. He answered by saying that the adoption rate for Vista, is two times that of where XP was after the same period," stated Neil Hutson, Microsoft evangelist. "Then in Jedi style, Neil MacDonald from Gartner said that 61% of respondents are thinking of skipping Vista. To that, Ballmer said that Microsoft would be ready for that outcome, but if he was the audience, he would not wait. I think that this is a good call. Vista SP1 is really stable and the big question is whether companies are going to wait for the first SP of Windows 7 before they deploy? That will leave them with a lot of very outdated machines and OS software that will take them a lot longer to replace."


Windows Cloud – To Strata or not to Strata?

At PDC2008 Microsoft plans to unveil the first Beta of Windows Cloud, which could be labeled Windows Strata, although the company has yet to confirm this aspect. Windows Strata goes beyond the Windows client and server operating systems, and is a new platform tailored to the Redmond giant's Software plus Services business model.

"We have our Professional Developers Conference in Los Angeles in a couple of weeks, we're going to roll out new technologies and a new platform for this software plus services world. The new platform has a lot of work to do. First, it requires a new platform in the cloud. In the Microsoft kind of way of thinking every new major trend requires a new version of our operating system. So, we did Windows, then we did Windows Server, then we did Windows CE and Mobile. And you'll see us bring Windows technologies in a new form to the cloud," Ballmer explained.

Microsoft is essentially looking to keep up with the changes associated with the development paradigm. But what the company is doing is transition the Windows style of development to the cloud and make it available in the browser. Silverlight, .NET, Windows Presentation Foundation and Visual Studio will all contribute to enabling developers to built web-based solutions running on Microsoft's new Internet platform. In this regard, the software giant is working to ensure that services will "be available as a system construct in Windows Server, in Windows desktop and in Windows in the cloud," Ballmer stated, adding that "with this evolution to a new world of distributed computing, we Microsoft will introduce a new cloud platform, some new cloud services around Web 2.0, some advances to our development tools and development runtimes, as well as tools and technologies that really support new business models."

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Comment #1 by: Bill on 19 Oct 2008, 14:18 GMT reply to this comment

Windows 7 Is Vista, same wine different bottle


Comment #2 by: graphicartist2k5 on 19 Oct 2008, 15:01 GMT reply to this comment

that's all well and good, but what is the point in coming out with another version of windows, instead of just fixing Vista, and sticking with Vista, seeing as how there are so many freaking versions of Vista already on the market? de we REALLY need another version of windows, or does microsoft need to fix Vista, and make it work the way it's SUPPOSED to work? my personal opinion is that microsoft got it right when they made windows xp, and it took them ALOT longer than a year or two to come up with the necessary patches/ os fixes in order for xp to be such a good operating system. to me, microsoft coming out with yet ANOTHER version of windows so soon tells me they are not willing to stick it out and fix vista, that they just want to throw in the towel and say, "our bad" to those who are stuck with using vista on a daily basis, much like i was stuck with using windows me when i bought my first computer way back when. my brother is the one i have to thank for giving me a copy of xp back then so i could install it on my computer, and after i did install it, it ran like a DREAM.


Comment #3 by: James on 19 Oct 2008, 15:12 GMT reply to this comment

The corporate world is not impressed by Vista. I work for a Fortune 50 company and we have no plans for Vista until 2011 at the earliest!

Much of our mission critical software, such as call center software will not run in Vista 32 nor 64. We are rapidly hitting the 4GB memory barrier and if we have to rewrite our legacy software then we may consider a platform shift away from Microsoft!


Comment #4 by: webterractive on 19 Oct 2008, 17:21 GMT reply to this comment

I switched to Mac because of the amount of Windows labled software I would need to purchase in order to be upto date. So it can be Windows 8, 9 , 10+ and so on and I won't be switching back.


Comment #5 by: Booster on 19 Oct 2008, 19:51 GMT reply to this comment

I used to admire vista, it's nice graphics and the good look of it icons, but after loading it on my PC, it was like one hav'n a 64MB, yet there is 1GB.
I would like to use Mac but it is expensive here in Uganda, East Africa.
Am still sticking XP


Comment #6 by: Jon on 19 Oct 2008, 21:07 GMT reply to this comment

I don't know why developers and other IT specialists are complaining about Vista. Sure, it might be a pain to get hundreds of custom apps to run on a new platform. But hey, as long as you're paid to do it and have that as job security, I say, stop complaining, because if upgrading and administering technology were easy, you'd be paid peanuts assuming you even had a job.
In the meantime, I love alot of things about Vista, and it IS a step forward. Sure, it is resource hungry, but it runs fine on machines that don't use a ton of resources just for security, Temrinal Services clients, administration and other crap that many companies insist on installing.


Comment #7 by: Garcia on 19 Oct 2008, 23:28 GMT reply to this comment

I don't know much about OS's, but I think they can't just make people download a DVD-sized update for Vista (which would be basically an entire new OS) to "fix" it and then make the whole system overwrite itself.

Instead, they're launching the "fix" as a new OS.

@HATERS: The chances I'm wrong are really high, and I don't care. I'm just posting my ideas just like you do.


Comment #8 by: BlueKansas on 20 Oct 2008, 02:20 GMT reply to this comment

If it won't run on my old laptop, I will install Linux.


Comment #9 by: draez on 20 Oct 2008, 11:38 GMT reply to this comment

Macs are for people that don't want to know anything about computers and want to pay a premium for it. Don't kid yourself, if Apple had as much success with Mac as Microsoft does with Windows they would run into the same issues as Microsoft is facing.

As for people complaining about Vista on office PCs... what?? Since SP1 it's been rock stable. Same issues were brought up when XP came out.. go look at the history of XP. Now look where it's at, everybody loves it. Not to mention if you're in IT and you can't get Vista working correctly... you shouldn't be in IT.


Comment #10 by: d0d4 on 20 Oct 2008, 13:37 GMT reply to this comment

you know if u have 4 computers at home and would acctually be able to
use all of them at the same time. like moving a window (word, excel, firefox)
from on e computer (screen) to another, that would something innovative...

also, if two people could actually work on the same document/program at the same
time, that would be innovative ...


Comment #11 by: Luke St. John on 20 Oct 2008, 19:01 GMT reply to this comment

I am eagerly awaiting Windows 7 beta at the end of October or early November. Will we the users get to download the beta ourselves or is the beta going to be private because I am confused. Can we download the Windows 7 preview software and install it on our machines? If so, will it be in an image format, a compressed file or in another form? I wanna try but I need to know certain info. Whenever, though, this Windows 7 beta is released, for download or to give manufacturers a taste and report to the public, all you people please let me know. Hopefully though, I hope the interface for 7 is way better than Vista's because Vista's gets tired easily.


Thanks much.


Comment #12 by: Charles on 20 Oct 2008, 19:25 GMT reply to this comment

Hey there. Is MS going to release a free beta version of Windows 7 still or will we the ppl have to wait until December. I have been hearing ppl say the developers will get the first look and feel of the new OS at the end of this month. Do you all think that the Windows 7 is really coming summer next year? I have been hearing talk and rumours back and forth. Anyone here can assist?


Comment #13 by: Sophea on 21 Oct 2008, 01:22 GMT reply to this comment

I really like Mac but it's very expensive in Cambodia. now i'm sticking with Vista. Why Apple don't make everything easy then? I mean, why Mac don't let everyone install Mac OS on general PC? Sometimes i hate Windows too but i have no choice. I'll switch to Mac one day when it more affordable


Comment #14 by: Codrin on 29 Oct 2008, 05:41 GMT reply to this comment

vista expansion, changed some color and added some features
features which will take another 10 GB space and more ram ( as usualy )


Comment #15 by: Jai on 29 Oct 2008, 23:13 GMT reply to this comment

Dear all, I don't more about Windows 7, but there is a lot of problems in Vista while installing common softwares like Nero. Windows XP is greater till now ( supports all softwares).

More then thanks.

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