Two Fanatic World of Warcraft Gamers Have Died Because Of WoW

I am sorry that he died but at the same time, i am glad.

one less wow loving idiot in the world.


face facts pplz, wow sucks and always has.

And if you want a REAL mmo, come check out Cabal Online, best mmo ever made.

fast paced action, fast leveling, awesome skill effects, LOW SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS, nice graphics and effects, sool gear and much more.

pvp anywhere in the pvp server, not in some far off place that no one can get to.

no more super slow gameplay to the the point that you want to drive a rusty spike through your skull.

Cabal = the new standard for any good mmo's, and gladly, wow doesnt fall in that standard, but far behind it.


flame me all you want WoW fan bois, but just look at this article, WoW kills, just like cigarettes and drugs, so no to drugs, say no to Wow and maybe you wont end up like this poor sob.

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Your disgusting, how can you use such a serious issue to advertise for some rubbish MMO,
a Person has died, and you feel the need to turn this in to an advert, your a disgrace.

You're glad?

Let's turn this around for a second.....

What if something happened to you and some heartless person posted:

"I Am sorry that he died but at the same time, I'm glad
One less CABAL idiot in the world"

yeah ....that's what i thought.

I LOVE CABAL I play every day and the only reason I don't play WoW is because i can't afford the fee's but come on dude are you SERIOUSLY that heartless? there is a time for everthing and that was soooo not the time to be advertising.......

And furthor more, WoW didn't kill anyone....I saw a special way back when about Everquest being so addicting that people would loose they're jobs, and family's over playing it. WoW is no different and niether is CABAL. ANYONE can be addicted to ANY GAME...you just have to know when it's Just a game and when it's more than just a game....take a break. As for you.....Well......I don't even play WoW so i'm saying this not as a "WoW Fan" but as an actually thoughtful caring human being....YOU NEED SERIOUS HELP.

How can you be glad that someone died? You are the same, MMO-fanatic idiot, and you're gonna die the same way! SOD your bloody MMORPG.

World of Warcraft is an amazing game, hence why so many people are addicted. you cant put the game down because he played to excessivly!
I play in moderation and greatly enjoy it!

Dood ragging on somones death to exploit your game is wrong man youll get yours one day you are a pathetic excuse of a man

An article about people that have died from playing WOW and all you do as a response is advertise your favourite MMO?

Wow dude your an idiot honestly whats wrong with you? I mean your being a d bag about this, your saying your happy people died because of this game yet you play a MMO wow shows how sensative people can be now a days I'm only 17 and I play a lot of games, but I don't see why you would bash someone who mean't a lot to people who didn't even know him. Your freaking pathetic

How can you advertise your favorite game over the death of a person?

Your a disgrace to the world...

wtf Wow Abolisher!
You are a heartless piece of !@##$#%(*^

I wonder if either of them dropped any good loot.

Man i hate wow but that is harsh

Is that really true

I really have to say that's pretty pathetic, you ahve to acutally go to a post about a tragedy in the world like death caused by a video game to do just the opposite then what it wants...
YOU POSTED FOR PEOPLE TO PLAY A GAME ON AN ARTICLE ABOUT DEATH THROUGH GAMING. You must be completely, utterly retarded.

I support your comment

Wow.. First off I started and tried out Cabal when it was in beta.. played for awhile after that.. the game SUCKS. Also, both WoW and Cabal have relatively * graphics.

If that was a troll, then you sir succeeded and win one internet.

Using someone's death as an opportunity to advertise your game, you paid effing shill? That's effing low, dude. Go EABOD and DIAF.

Srsly, are you retarded? You are glad because some wow geek died?! What is wrong with you... - _ -

how couls you say that wow is a very good online game and is the most played game ever, and the fact that this man died is his fault but you cannot blame it on the game, Wow plays a large role in many peoples lives.

wtf is cabal? lol sounds so gay

Your an idiot!

LOL, so you are saying that 11,1 million people are idiots, because they play wow? you are the idiot here, mr. stupid.

wtf is cabal??!?!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

youre a friggin dirt bag. you think youre better than anyone of these freaks? you are just as creepy. grow a beard or get a job. be somebody you sick little perv.

As much as I agree that this guy is a * bag.. a lot of you need to lay off of video games and pay more attention in school. For example, many of you are using "your" instead of "you're." It's pretty sad in my opinion. Your = possession of something; whereas, you're = you are. So for those of you who are saying "Your an idiot!", you're only saying that something he owns is an idiot? Fail.

In the end, WoW Abolisher is still a * * though.

First the guy was never going to play your game and for that you did not have to like him or have anything to do with him but to say your glad hes dead so clod heaerted and childish you have nothing to gain from his death wether or not he played wow or your game so to use his death to ad your game is below the belt I play wow all the time not that that means anythig if somone that played your game was to die god forgive I would sill pay respect to them as a fellow gamer.

Your glad your are retarded or something?? a person has died in REAL life not your virtual bolox and your recomenting some other MMO are yoo seryusly retarde? go see a doctor!!

I hate to agree with you, but you are right. WoW isn't even a good game to begin with... Yet these retards keep praising and worshipping it as if it's the greatest game ever made and as if it were actually worth spending hours on.

hey try cod! you kill ppl!!!

Thats fun

LOL allways need to be some idiot

Geez people it's obviously a troll

Wow doesn't suck, I enjoy Wow and I prefer it to any MMO I have ever played and I have played a lot, but I have never hated one. Over time I've come across my fare share of 'wow haters' but in most cases it turned out to be people who are poor little bastards who hate the game because they cannot afford it but in reality would like nothing more than to play it, you like Cabal because it is free, not because it is better.

what an assanine comment,....u suck and u made it about u,....god forbid u fall out because of something you enjoy....I love wow,...there is no comparison,...we love what we love,...and to hear about snowly is terrible,....get your mind right before you fail.

Sir, that was a very immature lame comment on your part. Cabal is a great game, WoW is a great game. At the end of the day, anybody can take any game too seriously. Sadly in this case, they guy took WoW too seriously and paid a price.

This, however does not mean that the same "addiction disorder" is not possible to occur on Cabal Online.

I hope you feel good about yourself, ridiculing the death of another. I don't think the friends and family would have shared the same attitude. Heres a suggestion, Grow up?

And yes, I have played both of these games.

Good Day.

i give u right my friend, the comment obove u is indeed very lame and very immature.

Another misleading article. They didn't die "Because Of WoW" like your title stated. They died due to an issue with addiction or just plain old being stupid.
To say it was because of WoW is assigning fault to WoW and there is no way a game can kill anyone.

You do realize how ignorant your comment is, right?

I am a student researching game addictions, just so everyone knows, especially the first commentor whos comment was an insult then an advertisment. These deaths are horrible and increasing, research around the globe is starting to link suicide to game addiction, although it's true that this is not the fault of WoW, people with mental disorders are far more likely to devote so much time to these games because they do not feel a social security in real life. It doesn't matter what the game is it has a high potential for addiction. I won't lecture on gametimes. But I do suggest that anyone playing the game keep an eye on any friends that may be having issues and ask themselves if they might not be having a problem to. If the game becomes more then a game, then theres a problem.

You've been studying game addictions, but you haven't been studying real psychology. You have no proof whatsoever that WoW isn't at fault, yet you assume it's "just a game" and it's a "user flaw". You do realize that Blizzard has a board of psychologists that have to approve every quest implemented in the game in order to maximize the addictiveness of it, right? Fyi that's not a rumor, it's a fact.

Ok, the dude on top has no reason to make fun of wow, he has either never played it or played it got ganked and was too weak to continue playing, Wow is an addicting game, but if you blame the death of these people on wow, then i can blame the death of all the people at Virgina Tech on the gun. It's about addiction, not WoW. End of story...

well to be honest i have played WoW and it was horribale all it was was a watered down version of eq1 and was more newb freindly.. if u wanted a good mmo play darkfall or mortal online

ON topic:
it realy saddens me to read that some1 has died BUT i have always been able to find good in this... animals have 1 less person eating the poor critters

BUT seriosly ADdiction is serios they need to make a 4-5 hour time limit on mmos (aka u get booted after that time and have to wait till the nxt day to play

Addiction can certainly create health hazards, especially when one is addicted to harmful substances like drugs or alcohol. But this is just ridiculous. Even alcoholics and druggies remember to eat and sleep. While addiction may have contributed to this death, a complete lack of common sense is what kills these idiots. I've known plenty of WoW addicts, but they can at least remember to sleep every now and again. The most basic skill, really.
Let's be realistic...these people played a game so much they died...that's a new pathetic low. If they can sit in front of a game until they die, I don't think society is missing out on any good genes. I'd have to wonder if these people would be able to accomplish anything worthwhile with their lives anyway.
It might sound harsh...but death by too much MMO is just pathetic on so many levels...

I agree with comment #2 completely just because you are so immature that u have to degrade someone dieing to put across some bias u have against a certain game is..in my opinion dispicable
I have never played "cabal" and it may very well be the greatest game in history and that is your opinion just as my is WoW is a great game. That however does not give any reason to imply that
a human being life has ended

thank you

Have some respect for the dead.

i think comment number 1 was made by an idiot .....u cannot do something like that and feel good about your self and sleep at night u are very horrible and should not even be alowd on your internet if this is what you use it for....good day to you

why care about a idiot that can't hold his mouth shut about a wow gamer that have dies. ofc its sad, and i don't even like wow. but i will not start saying that i'm glad he died. but i'll tell you all one thing.

wow, eq2, l2 and even Diablo1 and 2 have killed people. even counterstrike have. so, the fact that WOW kills isn't there. the fact that people get so inn to theyr "secound life" that they have to forget about RL to be the best online is around us.

try to understand.... people dies from everything, that MMO's takes 1 or 2 lifes each year is nothing compate to what um... lets say... compare to what bread do. or even water... water kills more people than anything else, coz water is in everything you eat. 99% of what you yea.

i'm sad that he died, but not to sad, coz we risk our life just living.

If you are an interested and concerned citizen of the world who would want to prevent the death of a family member, a friend, your loved one, your next-door neighbor, or yourself, you might care.

Otherwise, you are free to not care.

The truth is that there are people who are a) not interested, and b) don't care about the well-being of themselves or others, in particular as it regards the effect of MMORPGs on psyches and lives.

We can encourage them to be interested or care, yet they are free not to, so long as their specific disinterest and dispassion does not through neglect or act harm others.

Why do I care? Because I am a game designer. I wish to help make the world a little more fun and encouraging for others. If even one person playing is not having any fun, the game has ended for that person. Death is the extreme way to end a person's fun in the world. I'd like for everyone to consider what it is we are doing to ourselves and each other, so we minimize such breaches.

Seriously i know the subjects old now but i only just discovered it. If you don't care, then what the hell are you doing commenting? Seriously?! And advertising CABAL?
Dude, seriously what is your major malfunction?
Have some respect. I played WoW for a year and yeah i actually went a few days without sleep but i eat and drank and stuff. WoW is very addicting to those who allow themselves to be addicted. However, they just fell victim to an online master piece.

Guess what guys? People die all the time. This was his own fault yet everyone is acting like he was some courageous person. It makes me sick that people turn suicides and stupid deaths like this into a kind of heroism that should be respected.

I don't think a single person has attempted to make the victim into a hero, or revere him in any way. Aside from that, I do feel bad for the guy's family, and it's sad that he let an addiction go so far. The thing about this case is that it takes place in a time where drugs and cyber pleasures are the way out for people. It could have happened in any other addictive case. This just happened to be his escape from reality.

He was stupid enough to die, not our problem, not the games fault.


It was his own stupidity.

That's harsh, but it's the most realistic comment I've seen on this site so far.

There are some seriously messed up folks posting here. "Don't care", his own stupidity"? Would you be so fast to say an exceptionally cruel thing if one of your family had been lost in a similar was?

People make bad decisions all the time. Take a look at yourself for a minute and ask if you’ve made any mad choices. Some folks are in need of intervention to calm an obsessive behavior and the poor soul that passed here unfortunately didn’t.

The first person that posted gets the cake – you are one seriously misadjusted person. You need help.

Yes I would. Truth hurts sometimes.

Yeah... I would. IF they were really that stupid enough to waste away to death in front of a computer screen, I WOULD! I would HOPE people would say the same about me if that happened to me.

To Jimbob:
1 totally agree man. :D well said.

Sad thing is, two people died but people are too busy blaming this on the game to care about the actual people.

No one seems to look at the fact that addiction doesn't have to do with the product, but with the person's mind...and addictions speaks out to say that something is wrong with that person. You know when you're an addict, and you know when you need help. Video games didn't kill this person, negligence to themelves did...people should stop blaming the games and maybe look a bit closer at their own mental health.

That said, it is very sad that people die because of their addictions. But it's not WoW's fault any more than liver disease is the fault of Budweiser...blame the person, not the product.

This is a very sad event, but I just wonder how it is possible to die from playing a video game. I have played WOW and play it now. I have stayed up all night before playing and have played most of the day a few times but I always take time to eat and drink fluids and take general care of myself, and sleep of course. I just can't help but wonder if there was some underlying cause besides just being addicted to WOW.

You suck Jimbo. This is just sad no matter if there was an underlying reason or not. If there was an underlying reason and he choose to spend the rest of his life playing a game then that could possibly be even more pathetic than dieing just by playing. That is all I have to say.

okay here is a thought, shut off your computer, go outside, get some exersize, and stop wasting your lives with useless video games!!! Sure its sad that someone died, but at the same time that has got to be one of the most pathetic ways to die, to my knowledge. You have to value your life... and if you do stop wasting it on stupid video games.. WOW!..Oh yeah and the only reason im on this is because im writing an essay on how video games are effecting today's youth so don't bother pointing that out..

Not everyone plays these games 24/7 without a break #18. I don't care if you go outside or stay inside, but maybe you ought to get some kind of human contact.

Lack of human contact could seriously stunt your emotional growth and turn you into an angry bitter individual.

I fear I may be too late.

This is so sad. Their lives must have sucked to come this low to fail so badly in life. The best mmo? is MMOIRL its really good you should try it sometime. Games suck they ruin ur life seriously i know 12-15 i was so hardcore but i still had friends and didnt die over it wow.. one day i was like wtf am i doing so i deleted all my games and remember fresh air. Kicking a soccer ball around Hanging out with persons of the opposite sex ya i know its scary isnt it.
I've become so much better after i got rid of gaming. In school, my fitness, i have a girlfriend coming on 8 months shes beautiful. Seriously its a waste of your life dont let that hit you when you're graduated

I'm so sad because i've died just before i could loot the Black Dragon Prince. But anyway, i was abble to reach to some strange and knownless Dungeon wich they call "hell" or something like that. They lied to me telling me there was a life after death. I guess life's as private servers, where you sometimes need a Game Master to recover your body.

Anyway, i had a great time playing, and here i am really bussy right now, condemned to leveling a Priest Holy forever and ever on this pvp reign x0,0000000001 exp, but i think i'll finally get through.

I'm really not paying attention to you jokers and lamers and flamers, talking bad stuff about me, just as i didn't payed attention about my parent's yells. So you better not worry about dead, 'cause they don't mind about you.

I have to go, now, i have to go on farming some virtues before my next life surprises me with this nones.

Bye, noobs!

Lol Wow abolisher is right apart from the wow sucking part :). This guy is 28 and he chose to play it for several days straight, Noone forced him to do it and because of that i have no sympathy, Infact i actually find it preety funny and amusing that hes so addicted that he couldnt stop to go and get a drink of water which he could have taken back to the computer.

That's true! I used to be a WoW addict (I can play in moderation or when im just straight bored now without urges to farm for hours on end) and I frequently take 10 seconds to fill up a glass and bring it to my computer.

All I have to say is that games, like anything is good in moderation.. Eat too much, get fat, clogged arteries, death.

Too much salt . Iodine poisoning, Death.

Drinking, Moderate amount, anti-oxidant, system flusher. Too much = liver poisoning death.

Too much MMORPGS! Death. Moderate amount = fun. End of story.

And my respects to the people who died. They were victims don't care what you say. Life is hard, games are an escape, so even though it wasn't entirely the games fault, some of it is.

You know this doesn't surprise me anymore.
There have been never attempts like this and they will continue to happen.

I'm loosing my best friend to WoW. The guys 23 years old and could have by now very likely been on the way of finishing his Masters or a closely relevant degree.

While I was sweating my 5 years of University working on report. papers and exams, he spent 4 years of his damned life play WoW.

When you try to reason with these people, they always have lame excuses and at which point, after many attempts of trying to turn him away from that game he just kept coming back.

It's no surprise why these gamers die whether of health reasons or missing out on some high end gaming with their clan people.

Some of them, just CAN'T be reached.

That's true. And it's sad to think about WHY they can't get some sort of human contact and have a REAL social life. I have schizophrenia and bi polar (schizo being the most complicated and problematic of the few... Imagine your in class and the teacher asks a question, u had an answer to it, but lo and behold you were just imaging the question? pretty embarassing) and I STILLL have a social life even with bi polar and schizophrenia. These people have no excuse to do this to themselves. They are flat pathetic. Either that or they have cancer and would rather have death by MMO.

Seriously? People either care or don't care.

Mostly the latter.

Why do people not care? For one thing, this guy is a complete stranger. How is one supposed to relate to a stranger, and empathize with them?

Second, these little flame wars are just another way of showing your immaturity. Because everyone online wants to read about how you hate this one guy for advertising Cabal Online.

I played Cabal. Awesome game. I've played WoW. Awesome game.

But I can honestly say that I have the intelligence to know when to quit playing.

"But it's not WoW's fault any more than liver disease is the fault of Budweiser"

Um.. I hate to break it to you but alcohol directly causes liver disease.

Where as WoW doesn't cause anything.

He didn't die from a WoW overdose.

What you're saying is as bad as saying nitrous oxide kills people, when in reality they die from putting plastic bags over their head and not breathing.

This person died from not sleeping. If he'd been staring at the wall instead of monitor he would have died just as surely. Where as if you drank water instead of alcohol you wouldn't get liver disease.

NoS kills people? I thought it was used at the dentist, and in cars... Hmm, didn't know I expelled it when I breathed.

Anyways, to the point;
Im sick of people blaming games for damages done. A kid goes and kills some people and its found out he played games. Some idiot umm "forgot" to eat or sleep playing a game. Or some other kid got mad at his parents over a video game and FALLS OUT OF A TREE and dies. And everyone is ready to point their fingers at the gaming industry. In my opinion if these people got help when they needed it, these things wouldnt happen. But I suppose there is no real help for lack of common sense. No one is ready to take the real blame. You would think that this man's family or friends or co-workers would notice hes not been around for a long while... It's nuts, its like saying swimming killed someone that forgot to breathe underwater. What kind idiots would actually think swimming kills because of personal responibility?

I hate to break it to you. but if he'd spent that time exercising instead he would have died A LOT SOONER, since he died from sleep deprivation, and sleep is required even more so when you exercise a lot..

That's right folks, you can be addicted to exercising to.

So let's run around saying exercise kills.



Retards.

Seriously? Respect the dead? RESPECT the dead? RESPECT a guy that gamed himself to death? RESPECT a guy that did so very little with his life that he literally NOTHINGed himself to death?

How about I respect good dead people like WWII vets and Civil Rights activists and you continue to respect worthless throw-aways like this tool. MMORPG people are hopelessly pathetic.

I love video games just as much as the next guy, but a virtual hamster wheel is NOT gaming.

Wow makes people mentally Ill and should be banned this is not the first time wow has caused deaths.

You're right on both points. However, it will not be banned. You go to court and say it should get banned, they will say "People should know when it's right to stop. If not, that's their problem". SO it wont be.

My heart goes out to his family and friends how sad

Anyone that has played WoW has to agree with this. The way the game is designed causes players to be on it for extreme lengths of time. Raids, PvP and leveling to name a few examples. You can not log in and do a dungeon for 20-30 minutes and walk away, it takes hours and hours. Players are so fascinated by pixels (weapons and armours) and making their toons look "kewl" that real life just passes on by. Sleeping, eating and everyday life takes a backseat. Also the price they pay to play it affects players time on it as they feel the need to get their money's worth out of it. It's definately a horrible thing what it does to players. I have played and seen it and no longer play for all of these reasons and more.

#28 It doesn't matter how someone dies, you respect the dead nonetheless. I'm sure you have done little with your life to gain my respect, but when you die, I'm sure I would respect your death.

#13 It's not suicide if he didn't want to die. No one is treating him like a hero, they are just merely stating that his death was due to his inability to take his health seriously, based on the fact that all he did was play WoW.

*In general* For those that see this person's death as a joke, and have no respect, just remember what goes around comes around. It would be ironic if people remember you as a disrespectful jerk when you die.

ok, first, sorry for the dead
second, glad these deaths went public, now other wow gamers that take the game a little too seriously can learn from this, and hopefully prevent more deaths.
third, to people saying WoW is at fault, you are wrong, WoW is a great game, i like it very much myself, but the problem isnt the game, its the player.
Do you blame the gun store if somebody shot someone? do you blame your garbage can if it stinks in the house? no its the person's fault, DONT shoot someone, CLEAN the garbage can.

You guys are all already dead, don't you get it?

/ like
When the world has to spaz about what the others are doing on the internet but don't even do anything to fix their own lives and family's lives their just as ignorant as the people who don't realize their killing themselves by playing 80+ hours of gaming in a 5 day time period...
I understand it's quite addicting yes, but even I someone who has played WoW for 4 years and quit multiple times, and played other games like CSS, and HL RP and other's for years ever since I was 7, I still know what im doing with my life.

I sympathize with the families, I've lost a friend who committed suicide from WoW in RL, but people can't let these be disrespected by people who do the same damn thing and don't even realize it or care!

My heart goes out to the families of the poor souls who have committed a very unfortunate, untimely, and "unplanned suicide", due to addiction.

ADDICTION DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE!! Addiction can be and is a very poweful, cunning, and baffling condition. It takes hold of anyone from any walk of life.

CHOICE has become my lifesaver today and has been for the last 30 years or so. Because of my addictive nature andn personality i have come to realize that what i do is all up to me and how i handle the choices i am faced with is all up to me as well. Although, there are times when i say, "just this one time...." or "i know i shouldn't do this but i want to" These are the times i learn a very valuable lesson about the choices i make in my daily life.

Another big word for me is FAMILIARITY! Familiarity was a comfort zone for me but the more i stayed in that zone the more i became introverted. Familiarity was like an addiction because i was not able and not willing to see past what was holding me captive. I was not willing to venture out and explore the unlimited opportunities that awaited me. Don't get me wrong, i am not saying that familiarity is not a safe zone to be in...I still enter into it when i feel threatened but i don's stay and delve in it for days on end.

There are many forms of ADDICTION that plague the lives of our loved ones, including ourselves, but what one does with that addiction is a matter of choice and familiarity.

Prevention and Intervention are the norms in today's world of addiction(s). Conferences, workshops, seminars and staff meetings for addictions are all well and good but how does that help the person who suffers from an addiction? Our Addiction Professionals gather and take the information but just how many of them actually utilize it and put it into practice with their clients?

So, my question is: How do we make a difference in the lives of the people we love and care about who are addicted in one or more forms?

But most importantly, my concern is for OUR YOUNG ONES. How do we reach them? How do we prevent and protect them from the realm and harmful effects and affects of addiction(s)?

Could everyone please stop comparing accidental/careless deaths to suicides? That's hardly fair. And it's really cruel, too.

Yes, this guy was a moron for allowing a game to take over his life. But - where was his familial support? Where were his friends to take him by the shoulders and lead him to a doctor's office? It's obvious this guy had few others to worry about him outside of his WOW friends, and those are the people who are most at risk.

Yes, WOW gets a bad name from its players. No, it is not a killer game. And yes, caution must be exercised when playing. Most doctors suggest a five minute break every hour of computer use to rest one's eyes. You should always have a drink - like water or Gatorade - beside you on the desk. You should set aside specific times to stop playing and eat. And you should DEFINITELY take a half-hour break every two hours or so of gameplay, just to be safe and to help yourself relax. Go outside and soak in that Vitamin D - who knows, you may enjoy yourself outside of the game more than you think.

All it takes is to use your brain. And make sure you have a support circle - your family and friends, who know that you have a gaming addiction, and will check up on you now and then. Log how many hours a day you play your game through one week, tracking the difference from day-to-day. If you are playing for more than, say, 28 hours or so a week (seven days a week at four hours per day) - and even that's excessive - you should seek help. Staying in front of the computer too long will cause eyestrain whether or not you have poor or perfect vision, so also make sure to make regular visits to the optometrist. Eat healthy and spend at least fifteen minutes to half and hour between gaming to stretch out so you don't get crampy. Always make sure to have ergonomic computer accessories - such as a standing mouse or a mousepad with a foam wrist-rest - to prevent carpal tunnel syndrome.

Well, I've said my bit. I hope it helps. I feel very sorry for this man and his family and friends, and I hope it serves to show others what happens when you don't take care of yourself and recognize your addiction.

Love and Gaming,
Grotto

Shouldn't we be a bit sad that some people are DEAD reguardless of how they died?

Death, and any form of addiction, suck all around no matter how they happen.

I don't mean you have to respect the guy, but somewhere his family has a rather large gap in it because their son/brother/uncle/whatever was unexpectedly taken from them.

That alone should cause us to stop and think about the choices WE make...you never know how long you have to do all the things you keep putting off, say the things you keep meaning to tell your family and friends but don't.

I think we should mourn the loss of any human life reguardless of how it was lost and learn from others mistakes, not ridicule the dead...you should never speak ill of the dead.

my mom spends 16 hrs a day on wow
there is no help for her :_(
they have to come up with some sort of way for us to cut down gaming time for people who have serious addictions

It's still a suicide no matter which way you turn it or look at it!! That is how addiction works when one does not admit to having a problem. Hence, DENIAL!!! NO ONE or ANYTHING can make or change the personality stop the addiction unless he/she is willing to make that change.

I agree that ADDICTION DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE but it is also a very hideous dis-ease. It takes hold and it is progressive.

As far as familial support goes i have to say that that support is always there and always available to the addicted person. But, in cases of addiction (whether they be minor to severe) the addicted person shuts out those people closest to them. And again, DENIAL!! The addicted person WILL NOT ADMIT that he/she has a problem.

It's not suicide. He willingly did this to himself

...honestly we shouldnt be disputeing weather a game is better or not or weather its suicide or accidental death by adiction...the man has died...and to the guy who posted the first comment advertiseing that game...get a life seriusly...ima gamer yes...but i also have my own life i have good grades and i weight train ...its not the gamne its the ppl thT BLOW THINGS WAYYY OUT OF PRESPECTIVE ...U HAVE TO LEARN TO RATION YOUR PLAY TIME ..GO OUT MAKE FRIENDS dont sit around secluded in your room..i shopuld get back to my report but seriusly yall should morn the man who has passed and not advertise more games or try and demoralize other ppl and there lives...think of the mans family and how they feel...gameing is fun yes...but stay active outside of the game,..i enjoy games..i also enjoy lifting weights and training and just hanging out with my friends for a good laugh...goodbye all..and i know i was late...i just found this site-

I dont think he deserved it, but most WoW players are exceptionally idiotic and overly competitive it's changing people. How could you be stupid enough to do something like that.

Hello my name is James and i have become addicted to WoW i am 14 years old and have 3 80's on the server bolderfist. I hate to love this game i have all f's in highschool and i want to break this habit. I dont think ill kill myself over this game but i do get pissed off alot. i want to quit this game but cant seem to. i have a problem and i need help w/it.

Just delete WoW off of your computer and lock everything away someplace. Lol.

Chose a person to give your account to. Cancel it, and in the last month of ur subscription, just give it to someone and tell them to change the passsword and email.

Natural selection at it's finest. Chemical imbalance in his brain prevented him from logical actions like Eating and Moving around.

Ok, first of all it's just a game, for the retards who want to ban the "evil", and second of all, I'm a gamer myself who is unashamedly addicted to WoW, and I'm in my last year of highschool. I don't have the time to sit and stare at the computer for hours on end, but I do know what it's like to sit (on holidays of course) and quest for an entire day. But it would take a severe idiot to get so hungry and tired that tou ended up dead because you were in a raid group.
So yes, this guy was addicted to WoW, but people, idiocracy is what killed him.
BTW, there are more than 11 million WoW subscribers around the world, how many of them kill themselves (please note that this guy did kill himself, whether it was suicide or not has no standing).

Did society create a monster? Or should people be responsible for managing their own time? Or perhaps are they being influenced by everything around them and that's why it's become so hard to do so? It has become so hard to answer these questions.

It is a game. Only a game and many of the people that die from this game would die from any game that is similar to this one. I enjoy playing WOW to pass my day by at work when I am bored and I also like to play it for the cool gear and spells and to buyu and sell things. But There are some people out there that look at this game as the life that they can't have, it is a way for them to be someone important, or rich, or just the cool guy. Who doesn't like a level 80 that is willing to help. Honestly most of the poeple playing this game are a bunch of band geeks in high school that got picked on by the cool kids. Just the facts of life and i find it hard to believe that many people can honestly lose site of that. As far as forgetting to eat....Sad. I have never in my life forgot to do that, eat sleep and bathe. Seriously has to be more to this than what meets the eye but oh well we are way past those 2... This has evolved to the losers, suicide conversation. There are some of us that can't see losing yourself to an imaginary land of fictional characters and stories, and then there are some of us that lives for these places and it is all they have. Point is... We are all different and we all do things differently, So don't judge and just treat everyone the way you would want them to treat you if you ever needed help, or became the un cool person.

So, I wonder what await him in hell for that ?
Maybe a real dragon!!!!

MAN! i gotta stop playin wow, my uncle got spoiled by this game...now he thinks that there is 2 of him and 1 is in hogwarts fighting dragons, while the other is playing wow! i swear, its scary!

he's just schizo!

you sure he's schizo? why now contact the best docs in America who are over age 40..they know the difference between drug sideffects and scizo..

MMORPGs are really intersesting, unlike a standard console game in that the game constantly changes, with patches that change class mechanics etc (and PvP the encounters are not set like in PvE).

As far as 'fanatic' WoW gamers I am one and to be honest I find it really sad that someoen can play until they die. I mean WoW will never overide natural instinct.

I think these 2 cases are people that take WoW waay to seriously. I mean I take it seriously, hell i'm just about to start raiding. But the thing is, these are very very rare cases and because of this they get press attention and as a result the companies that make the games are then forced to put in these time limits saying you can only play for 10 hours a day etc.

WoW is a brilliant game if you have the system resources of a high end gaming PC and a very fast connection (optic fibre is a must now, broadband is starting to be a tad slower). Personally I play it off my non gaming PC laptop and its fine on low graphics but DC'able on high graphic settings.

So in conclusion, you will get these cases and to empose restrictions on game time as complusary is wrong as people have to learn to put the game down not just let the game tell you to stop,
It's like the nintendo wii allover again, but this time with MMOs

Its not just a game. Its a pathetic obsession, just shows how ridiculous society has become as this is what people need. Video games to enjoy life.

Why is everyone getting off track here and not responding to the original post.
Cabal rules !!!

Because that low life scum doesn't deserve a reply.

This is worth a darwin award!

They didn't specify the cause of their deaths aside from being too addicted to WoW. Also, it doesn't take several days to clear a raid, just a few hours.

wow is a great game, and i sympathize with the person(s) involved. wow is a fantastic game, but you have to have it in moderation. take breaks for 15 minutes every one or two hours. remember that it is only a screen and is in no way benefiting you mental, socially, or physically.

again, condolences on the deceased.

jo

the final battle with the Black Dragon Prince)????????

^^^ This does not exist ^^^

i don't play wow but i used to and yeah i never heared of a black dragon prince either. lol

Im saddened by such a loss but im glad in a way he died the way he wanted to live in another world and if you say that im horrible for saying this than go jump in a lake and live the way you want

Honestly then i want to go in a way for me to go i want people laughing their asses off

haha IKR? cuz you can't be mad at people for laughing at you if your dead right? xP

I can't believe that with all of this intelligent discussion, no one has mentioned how behavior modification systems literally rewire the brain. Addiction has a bit to do with poor choices and obsession...but these things don't even truly exist! What you see happening is a reward/punishment system, via aspects of the game design, that literally program the brain and change it's neural circuitry. It's no different from what happens with any other drug after repeated exposure. It's not even a new concept...Pavlov's dog, anyone? So, yes, the deaths are partially the company's fault. They are not idiots; they want to make money. And, they know exactly what they are doing. Given this, yes the individual should take responsibility; however, the mmorpg designers could implement reward/punishment processes into that which exists so as to reduce extreme addiction. They would get their monthly fee anyway....and a lot less negative press. In fact, hey...here's a concept....these geniuses could actually use mmorpg to BENEFIT society.

YES! PAVLOVS DOG! OMG we are studying motivation in psychology... I'm so bringing this up 2morrow in class..

He died because he was devoted to the communitie, WoW requires lots of teamwork so it's not exactly all his fault that he DIED.

It's his fault. I have done all this crap and I never once had to screw myself like he did.

I played wow for 27 hours straight. i learned that the game is so addictive that hunger does not even effect you untill you turn off you computer and realize your in pain. Also im level 80 and i dont know what a black dragon prince is. o.O

Well some interesting comments.
I agree that this guy really did over do it and paid the ultimate price, which nobody deserves, but like any addiction these things can happen when you use things to excess.
But on the other hand i play WOW and have done since in began and it has been an enjoyable experience and have met some great friends.
I am lucky enough to have lots of real friends and a girlfriend so i would never let this game overrule my life as i then think it becomes very nerdy, but i can see if some people are loners or dont have many real friends that they could be drawn in to this fantasy world and let it overtake there real life.
I do agree that the game designers should take some steps to discourage ultra hardcore playing that could result in health problems. It also deprives some people of a more fufilling real life experience as they are drawn into WOW.

Major respect for the man that died. I feel sorry for his family but damn, I want to die playing a game. I go for long periods of time but unfortunately I'm still to weak to make it to death. My need for water and food and sleep overrides me. One day, I wish to join him in Gamer Valhalla. Screw all you guys saying he's pathetic and an idiot. Games were his passion, he died playing a game. Good for him. Life is some people's passion and they die living. Good for them. Food is a passion and people die from food. Simply put, do what you love and die doing it. Why is it that someone getting self amusement from a game has no life? Even if it's all they do? What about those sports jocks that play basketball or football all day long and nothing else, swearing they're gonna make it big but never do and wind down to nobody? The fact is, life is life no matter what you do with it, we all die in the end, do what you love, enjoy it and then die.

You're a more pathetic idiot. LETTING a game override your natural instincts? You're pretty stupid and sad man. Hope you get your wish VERY SOON

P.S. Please don't have kids. For the LOVE OF THE WORLD!!

Well, he died doing something he loved. I'm sure we all cannot say that will happen to us all. Don't bring the hate upon this thread when someone died, c'mon man. Have a little bit more respect than that for a person. But, I guess for those who are being rude and nasty to the idea of someone dying playing WoW (no matter what game you play) then we should jump for joy when you pass on saying what an idiot for playing that game too, right?

Did he over-do it and should have paid more attention to himself? Yes. Do we do that at times no matter what we do or where we are at in life? Yes. So, no matter which way you look at this and these deaths in the past, present, and future... think of this... have some respect for people.

that is sad do u no that im crying not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i just feel sorry and thats it

why would he play a game for 1 week NON-STOP
he must be crazy

WOW r u sad you r a heart man or woman dissing the dead and putting up an add u sad sad loenly man you need to get a life you worthless piece of @#$$$$^%&%&^%$@!!!!!!!!!!!!

Learn English dude. Seriously.

Did he drop any good loot?

WoW FTW, at least he died doing what he loved.

he shouldnt have been sittin there so long

the goal of life is happiness, being content, and doing what you love.
It seems strange in alot of peoples eyes seeing how he died playing a game, but how is it any different than a legendary football player having a heartattack while running on the field?
he did what he loved to do, and died doing it, and people who didnt even know him looked up to him, i dont care what any of yall say, this guy may have over did it, but i think he lived his life better than you did WoW Abolisher, gtfo

Goal of life is living for God actually.

I know this has already been said but: Comment 1, you should be ashamed, you ignorant p***k.

Wow abolisher your such a doosh you dont have to be a so harsh to a guy whos dead who can't even defend himself. If you think Cabal is better go ahead, but dont tell everyone how you think hes dumb when he probably isnt.

this is horrible RIP! whoever you are



WORLD OF WARCRAFT ALWAYS

Shovels kill people every year BAN SHOVELS
you cant blame a game for one persons problems
an addiction is a physical dependancy WoW is not that people use addiction as a crutch to let them play it all day long
you cant be addicted to games some people just take them too far and dont eat or sleep. I have played WoW for 2 years and i know to take breaks and after a long raid to log off for the day i know to go interact with friends i know to take a few days off from it every now and then
i am sorry this guy died but that doesn't mean you should scapegoat mmorpgs for one mans problems
WoW is a fun game and i love it, people who try to get rid of games like WoW are horrible IMO, i mean really people spend time trying to get rid of this shit without trying to get rid of something worth getting rid of!

to #60 , what you're saying pretty much covers for every good game in existance, i personally dont like WoW, because i simply dont like strategy or mmorp games.

my brother does though, and i'm afraid its too late for him to stop too.

please continue the flame wars, love reading this !!! :D

I can so relate to this.
My 21 year old son moved back home because he quit his job to play WOW full time. Before that he kept borrowing money from his mother, without my knowledge, to pay his bills in his apartment while he played up to 20 hours a day. That, energy drinks, and junk food has left him at 6ft-3in. and a 54 inch waist. He's gained over 70 pounds in less than 10 months.

He moved home in January 2010. After one month our electric bill nearly doubled from his constant on-line running. Yes, his PC eats nearly 1500 watts/hour. He's blown over $3000 on a giant gaming pc, 26 inch lcd monitor, and toys to boot. So, I started shutting down our network at 11 PM. He just turned it back on when I went in for mid shift. So, I put the modem and router inside a small used Kitchen cabinet with air holes, and plugged the whole lot into a $6 light time and locked the doors. Off from 11 to 7.

After 4 more weeks of this and no job hunting, I programmed my router to block port 3724 and no more WOW server access. the next morning he was in my room waking me up in a rage, his body shaking he was so pissed, screaming that he was an adult and how dare I block his WOW access.

I gave him an option, find a job and I'll turn it back on. then he started going to his mother whining and crying that I was treating him like a kid and disrespecting him. His mom who's very independent decided she didn't want to deal with the arguments and got into it with me several times threatening to leave unless we quit fighting about his access.

What's amazing is that after 10 weeks he had not job, but after three days of no access he had two interviews for IT positions in his field of study (computer science). but, due to his lack of going after these jobs aggressively, he didn't get hired.

He finally got a seasonal job at 1 day a week. So now he's screaming I'm breaking my word and not letting him play since he found a "job". Meanwhile I'm still footing his entire cost of living. After three more weeks of no sign of our son from the basement of the house, i decided enough was enough and shut him down permenantly.

8 days later i come home to find he's gotten into my locked cabinet and my routers and switches have all been reset to factory defaults by the rear pushbutton initialize. He was the only one in the house/basement that night and claims he didn't do it. The amazing thing was they were reset again right before I came home. thus clearing the log files.

That's when I'd had enough and cut all his cables from the cabinet. But not until I took the router out to the garage and smashed it with a sledgehammer. No more internet. Then he got between my wife and I and got my wife so piss that she and I ended up with the worst fight of our marriage of nearly 22 years. I went down to the basement where he had run after getting this fired up and let him know that if he didn't move out, I was probably going to F-ng KILL HIM.

He promptly went to his mother and told her. She took the other kids and him and left the house and went to her parents. Says she can't trust a man who threatens to kill his own son.

All this over a Flippin Video Game.
God help us all...

#75 You are an amazing father to realize the gaming addiction and do your best to put a stop to it. I'm sorry to hear about your situation with your wife. Hopefully she too will realize the gaming addiction is ruining his life and also try to put a stop to it and you both will work through your troubles.
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Terrible that there are people who will put their health aside for an addiction and not realize it.
I admit I too have been addicted to MMO's and forgot to eat. It's not that I don't want to, time just passes by with out realizing it. You get so caught up in this "life" online, that real time just "stops".
My boyfriend seems to not understand my gaming addiction and is currently trying to get me to play WoW. Thankfully it does not work on this computer haha.

Omg after reading these comments I'm glad I don't play Warcraft anymore. People make it into a freaking job. I just realize a month ago that nothing is going to change. You wait for raids, get loot. Walk around in a major city and try to look like a badass like "yeah I'm so cool look what I got and you don't." I'm not denying that I never did that, but when more and more things open up like patches or raids. You have to work on that as well, and all the marks you played countless months on, it's easy to get now because the next marks arrive. It's an ongoing vicious cycle. I had good friends that I played with, but they just can't see that it's never going to change. So they rather play than hang. I don't see them anymore nor I would really care... Losers. Oh, and I work with someone that plays it. Fake calls in because he wanted to play Warcraft so leaves me hangin to work by myself. I hate warcraft, I'm glad I quit. Sorry #75. that sucks. Your son might just live with mommy till he's 35 or so like that movie stepbrothers with will ferrel. Not get married and get beat up by little kids at a play ground and force to eat dog crap.

THAT IS THE EXACT REASON I always PVP'd. I didn't wanna have a job. I just wanted to go around killing ppl :3

Epic troll poster #1 just epic!

stupid wow lovers. wow is a piece of crap get a life

i have had my account for nearly 12 months now and i don't find this game addictive. i find friends online. to be honest deaths inflicted because of world of warcraft is just sad and pathetic. computer games are meant to be for your free time not for continuos play for severall days straight.

if a person doesn't get enough rest the body just gives in because you have depraved your body of the needed resting. i matters not if you are in a quest or a dungeon a person still needs to have a break from gaming.

i will sometimes stop playing for an entire week and go to a local sporting event and socialise with my friends. i don't count world of warcraft as sociallising because you cannot see the persons face. some may call it socialising because they might not have any friends out side of the game itself which is also a little sad because they never really made that effort to go out and make friends outside the game

To some of these losers, raiding and dungeons does = life. D=

I must say, what a noob, played to much wow & died& annyway if you were going to die while playing a game you would have to died playing cod6, this is why noobs should not b able to play video games,

Well i knew a guy who was addicted to WOW then he got addicted to COD and now hes in a mental clinic and put on about 14 stone pretty sad really but hey life goes on atleast he didnt die.

Why's he in a mental clinic?? Just for game addiction?

He actually died because of an overdose of noodles.

There are 500 lifetimes of things to see that are not on the computer. I suggest instead of logging 500 hours on a virtual world that you spend 70 years in the real world. Because in the end you are going stop playing and your character is going to get deleted. hahaha.

Hahahaha and im guess thats what happend to you.huh?

Yes it is sad that people die because of game addiction. it doesnt mean the game is bad. Ones own choices are almost always to blame. yes I play but I also work,clean house and do a ton of other things. its called knowing when to walk away. The game is for fun. It is not reality and to the one saying it needs to be banned. You need to wake up. Banning every little thing a few people don;t like would lead to no one having any rights or freedoms. What it all comes down too is taking responsabilyt. No one is to blame for what you choose to do other than you.

Wow, most of you have great input, except those who blow off the guys who died. I would hate to have to depend on you to help me if a mugger was attacking me! "Oh, she deserved it because she happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. . .it's her fault!"

I have to admit, I did get addicted to Wow a few years ago with my 30 yr old son and his 9 yr old. What actually drew me in were the graphics (really). Then after level 6 or 7 I have to admit it was not just the graphics . . . I had challenged myself to hit so many levels within a certain time frame. Then the self-challenges got larger and unrealistic, but I pressed in. It was a blast to play with my son and his son. But my son's life changed --- he loved his job and remarried (he was already single when we started) which, of course, changed his interests. And I'm glad for that. But my grandson and I continued. My main character had passed him up and, of course again, I 'had to help him level'. Then he surpassed me. Why? Because he began to stay on with his self-challenges. Who taught him that? I had to admit, I was the influence.

I had begun to realize that my grandson wasn't making friends at school or around his neighborhood. Again, Why? Because he was consumed in the game. No other exercise of his mind or body. He wasn't reading, playing outside of the game, or interacting well with his teachers and schoolmates. Then I looked at myself. My social life had changed to in-game guildies. Then I looked at the time-frame from when I started and the year of this realization -- 1 1/2 yrs had gone by.

I began to work with my grandson on getting involved with other activities, story telling, drawing, riding his bike. It was really hard because his social skills were being developed with non-faced ppl online. It prob took a year to get him to 'want' to interact with other kids. And now he hardly ever plays WoW. He is outside riding his bike, swimming, reading (we are reading a series together and they are great -- "Ranger's Apprentice'. This was his idea. He lives in another state and he sets the pace as to what chapters we have to have read and by what time.). We even talk about different businesses we could start and what we would develop. He is going to have a lemonade stand this summer.

It wasn't the game that caused us to withdraw from society, but our own choices of entertainment. I wish I could say I lost weight from playing the game, but it worked reverse on me. I am now working hard on reversing those results, and it is hard but worth the self-esteem.

Last year I probably spent almost the same amount of hours that I played looking for ways to increase my fps, lower latency in the game, and read ways to improve my armor, skills and strategy. Then I put the brakes on when someone suggested I go to a gaming addiction site for help. I was shocked! I knew I was addicted and couldn't let go of the game like I had done with my grandson, but to be told this by a total stranger . . . online. And they were serious (not mean).

I began to realize where I was. I had become increasingly inpatient with ppl who asked me simple questions while I was playing, or the phone rang, or the dog needed to go out. I didn't want to go to lunch with friends. My house and laundry were done in record time . . . so I could get on the game again. I saw how mother's in-game did the same thing. I also saw how other guildies choose their life over the game, i.e. they went to workout, they were going on a vacation. Choices were being made. The game was number 1 or RL was number 1.

Finally I said to myself 'STOP'. I wanted real life people. People I could see and do things with. We could do real hugs instead of typing /hug or /cry or /wave. These needed to be done in RL.

None of this was the game's fault. It was mine. It was my grandson's parents' for letting their son play WoW for hours on end. It was mine to encourage my grandson to play WoW. IT was mine for myself. I still struggle with staying in balance by reminding myself to look around me, look and listen to the people. I am now involved with other things and play Wow as an 'after-thought' and once in a blue-moon.

I am so sorry for Comment # 75 and I hope things work out and your wife realizes that she will only help her son in the long run if she takes a stand. And possibly your son will realize that there is more to life than gaming. In fact, I am going to go do my workout now and then go and paint a portrait I have wanted to do for over a year but I had put the game first.

Gaming, any kind, can be addictive. Food can be addictive. TV can be addictive (detective shows, sports, food networks, etc.--lol), and many more things. But none of these things kill you. It's what we do with them . . . all things in moderation, taking care of our health and our lives. Gaming is fun, but not at the expense of our lives, jobs, relationships, and especially our families.

That's not the case. YOU didn't willfully get mugged. THEY (being the 2 deaths) willfully played themselves to death with this game.

Alls I have to say is WoW !

Ok... so honestly.... wtf? Why is everyone gettin so heavily involved in this arguement. Lets get to the main point of this whole post. 2 men died while playing a videogame. Im not saying its the video games vault or it isnt. But they died. Thats sad regardless. You people make me sick argueing about whos fault it is. Really people come on. THis is more serious than your quarrel between games. People died. Get over yourselves.

well how do u know??

wow this is really sad.

lol there is no black dragon prince in world of warcraft u noobs

Sad but hey shit happens i mean my friend was so addicted to WOW that when he lost his job it allowed him to play all day so eventually money ran out and he had to start borrowing money, hes ok now but it was sad seeing what it did to him.

Darwinism is still alive and kicking

LOL! filthy call, but yeah, too right

The guy obviously haven´t heard of "taking a break"

Sad shouldnt stay with your mom in the basement.

i don't like world of warcraft for my own reasons, people die obsessed with all kinds of things, it just happens and its sad, i hope this doesn't get blown out of proportion causing bad laws creation.

Don't give them any more material to brainwash the ignorant masses.

Ideas are far stronger than any person,
Grow an idea and benefit from its meaning, Grow a person and watch them benefit from an idea.

its that simple

what happened to thier characters

Well I must say that I agree on what most people here say.
That it was utterly low to take advantage of this unfortunate incident to make an advertise about a an other MMO.
I for myself play WoW amongst other games aswell.
I dont think it has to do with whatever game one choose to play.
It`s only important to take care of one self in the long run.
And also take in consideration that it might have been other reasons for people dying while playing.
Like genetic heart conditions etc etc.
Nevertheless I notice that it is so easy for some people to just judge out of no where without any proof what so ever.
I say to people : take care of your own * and let others sort their own.

i think this is rediculous get off the * game

Just play everything in moderation. And give your eyes a break. They need one. :D

this isn't sad.... sad is ethnic cleansing in 3rd world countries..... sad is women and children being raped and murdered.... this..... this should be nominated for the darwin award..... this is not sad....

I find it amusing that my parents said I was addicted to this game. Rofl. Then look at this.

As an avid WoW player, i understand how addictive the game is, and feel badly for this person, i hope this can be used to make ppl realize that you have to do other things outside of your games, and number one, is take care of yourself, and as for the pond scum who posted he was glad, just know that you really are pathetic, go look at yourself in the mirror, and i bet you dont like what you see.

I think he died because of his life issues and not the game. I feel like a vast majority of the people are kinda clueless to the real world problems that invoke online addiction. These two people died because they wanted to escape from reality

What's the website addess for the WoW and Thereafter? Would love to see what these games are.

One of my friends recently died that I knew in WoW. We did soo many arenas for 3 seasons. We would also do arena's and where going to get gladiador this season for the first time. Then someone that knew him in real life told me he did after slipping in shower and hitting his head. I quit 20minutes later. Knowing he was 21 and just died, I knew that wasn't what I wanted. It has been 20months but I hope he still R.I.P. Life passes by, this game will just make it go faster.

I'm sorry man. That really sucks. R.I.P.

One of my friends had a gf and wow... He would lie to her to * her off for the game. I LOVE WoW, but I'm not about to throw my life away for it like these 2 losers. They needed to just step away from the computer...

i think that u sir are a poor excuse for a human being, yes maybe he was a bit stupid playing a game so excessively, and to be honest i feel more for this guys family and friends more then him i believe that anyone with an addiction should face their demons or they will die or mess up bad so this is not suprising but saying you're glad is sick

shocking and yet they had the funeral online i understand paying respects but you do it in person not in a game

lol umad bros

@WoW Abolisher

I'm afraid you're the only idiot. Learn how to respect the dead and recognize that addiction is serious.

As "Same" said, you are disgusting and pathetic (I added the pathetic part because it's true).

However, I do agree that WoW does suck, it shouldn't be played anyway.

wow,your as stupid as the first guy,so if your friend dies on your stupid game,don't come crying to us.

hahah geeks.. dieing from being shelter'd... * at least they dident OD or die from HIV/HEP C, violence and car crashes like most youth die from these days..

lol @ Dr Satan, very true. I don't think the sheltered kids don't know how to see different points of view...

Wows graphcis are so crap. If you want the same experience play Aion that has better eye candy and way hotter avatars and no god * ape looking people. Its pathetics hearing wow people talk about wow in RL. I usually walk away in mid sentance when they are telling me about some gear rating they wish they had, or if only they could get their last piece. Hell, that's even if you can understand what they are saying through their hill billy mouths.

I agree with the OP.. one less useless human being using up good oxygen.

snowly was a girl...

The headline is wrong. Should read "...have died because of idiocy." Sleep deprivation will kill you? This isn't news. The fact that they happened to be playing WoW, well... It's not Blizzard's fault that these players were stupid.

Can anyone say Darwin Award...

Can anyone say "Darwin would not recognize what we have done with his theory?" But apart from that, there is another issue that is surely equal to the tragedy of someone dying while playing too much WoW (or what-have-you); that is, how people, after years of sitting if front of a computer, playing games and posting on sites like these, have been so accustomed to responding off-the-cuff to others on the same venue, that they really either have forgotten that they are talking to (and about) real flesh-and-blood human beings like themselves. I am 49 years old and a gamer (and yes, I play WoW). But, there was obviously a time in my life when there was no WoW; if I wanted to doddle off to a fantasy realm and there don a character persona, I had to do it surrounded by other youths like myself all gathered around a table-top with dice, graph paper and lead figurines all the while talking with them face-to-face. (And yes, if you wanted to call someone a "d-bag" or say "you suck" you had to do it to his/her face - and be ready to reap the consequences!). Today, internet anonymity has taken away any sense empathic connection with another person's feelings and replaced it with a faux sense of boldness and (quite unwarranted) superiority. Of course people are going to be big, bad and bold when they don't actually have to face a person while spewing forth the kind of filth and nonsense as exemplified by most of above. In fact, not only does it not register with them that what they are communicating is completely outrageous and totally uncalled for; it barely registers with them (on an emotional level) that they are even communicating with fellow human beings! To die while playing a video game is one thing; to die slowly on the inside over the course of years to where any real sense of community, empathy or just plain decency has all but completely shriveled-up inside someone is a tragedy of the same order, just more elongated over time. "Ask not for whom the bell tolls...."

why do people take those games so seriously?

...Hahahahaha! Darwinism at it's finest.

Akatosh at rains dot net..is the top pc expert in the area and is commiting suicide via wow..O_O;#..

He is the best druid in the game, however he been drowning himself in the game while i been here to whole time trying to gain weight and recover from 2 medicine addictions..
It was just for anxiety and depression..which made sick..then switched to an antiallerigy med..and i lost most of my screencaps..meh..I'm chaste and bored..drug free yay..

I bet my engagement ring on it..which i am willing to give back to him..or my family..

The best docs diagnosed me as a complete nerd..most people are too * to understand the nerd disorder..and i hear just my own voice..and its lonely here.

Fyi I am related to a famous WW1 Captain

I was named for a WW1 Nurse Red cross nurse..if you cannot find her.then look up George L Curran 1.. both suffered the similiar addictions..which is a shame..
The man was famous and loved by many..
If you look at his photo..and know this guy..you'd switch to Buddhism xp im joking!..heh

Still alive..like Glados..

Yes you may contact me if you are smart and wise enough to..

I am an old soul..who wants to save a man's wings. I will never marry if my soulmate dies..i don't know why i'd say that..

My pa told me to leave wow..i pray for Akatosh..that his mom will take it away from him..that game is like crack and cigs..which people used to use in the 1930s..
Its like guns..Take away a man's games and guns..you get a healthy man in this day and age..xp

It sucks that he died but, If he would not get off to sleep then im sorry to say but he deserved to die. At 28 years old one should no how important eating and sleeping are and should never game for days non stop its not healthy to sit in front of a screen with rays going into your brain for that long. I have never even played a game for more than 8 hours straight let alone days at a time, and have never deprived myself of sleep over any game. He was prolly one of those people that did not have any friends in real life so he had to be on all the time because thats where his whole life was and where all his friends were at. I play WoW and have for 5 years but i have never played more then 4 or 5 hours a day taking a 20-30 min break after i have been playing for 2 or 3 hours, and i dont play everyday of the week maybe 3 days a week at best. Thats a healthy way to do it.

well firstly games dont kill people, people being careless kill people. a game cannot kill anyone (except in the game obviously). i have been a gamer since i was 3 years old and im now 26. i still have all the old consoles im so into gaming. but i have limits. even if i play till 7am, an entire day, i make up the time in lost sleep too. your body is your temple. if you dont look after it, it wont look after you. it is a real shame to lose a fellow gamer who i have never even come across. death is always a sad time :( but people who create these games should not worry about controlling their games because it is never a games fault. it is the persons fault for 1) not eating and 2) not sleeping or taking rest. your body needs at least 6 hours of sleep just to get threw each day otherwise it will slowly start to run on empty just like a car. you can not drive without petrol or gas just like you cant run without food/water and sleep. sleep is when your body repairs itself. so yeh its a sad time for all involved to lose a friend and family member, but the person should have payed more attention to what his body needed. games dont go anywhere. you can always go back another day. games dont kill people, people kill people.

wtf is the black dragon prince, never heard of it. they makin * up

Obviously they were talking about neferian from Black Wing Lair... That boss was hard back in the day

god these things realy
happen

playing any video games for a long period of time will resulting in exhaustion. there's a research that say people who watch tv or use computer for more then 4 hrs will hurt your heart and shorten your life.

Just as there are Drugs designed to make addicts, gamers are lured by heart beat increases during the game and adrenaline rushes result. Facing life challanges with the same passion could lead to a good disposition.

6500 africans die of aids every day and ppl think that this WoW story is a serious problem??

and how is that a local problem? What benefits do we get from the african people? other than diamonds... yes I'll be a blatant * about it. No one gives a * about africa. Your comment made me lol :D

God rest you sould will see you at the gaveyard bud lol hope you gave that boss hell and you have found peace.

My nephew who would normally have nothing wrong with him at all, is in the hospital with a collapsed lung. Its because he does nothing but sit at the computer and play WOW. He wouldnt even get off to have christmas dinner with the family a mile away. My sister lets him do it. If it was up to me, he would be in the hospital to have my foot removed from his * !

ive been doing nothing but sit in front of my computer for the past 5 months and ive gotta say, if he got a collapse lung, it definitely isnt because of the computer >.>, now, have i slept? yes, not often but every few days i sleep, do i get sick often or get cold or w/e, nope not at all :)

i find all these things about people dying or being hospitalized because of sleep deprivation to be utter * , i have never once felt any symptoms and the longest ive ever stayed up was a little over a week straight with no sleeping (then again i did drink like 30 liters of soda)

did they drop something ?

Someone should have offered them a KITKAT.
Oh well, natural selection has to happen even today...

KitKat? lol. i cant believe how much * two nerds made by dying from sitting in one place for weeks. ive had xbox live for 3 years, and take breaks, go out, * like that. I'm not saying you cant stay up late hacking and slashings orcs or whatever, but do try and get out once a weekend at least people. When I was 13 my routine was pretty simple: School, xbox, sleep. Repeat. don't go down the same route, please get a social life as mine is just coming back together.

Whew 2012 and still no anti-obsession systems? Still at east they died before the games went to * . Anyway belated well wishes to their families.

This is really sad :( I wonder how someone could be so dedicated though, like I love WoW so much, but after about 3 hours, I get tired of sitting around and need to get up and do something, even if I am raiding with friends or whatnot. RIP Snowly and Thereafter.

i think that a anti-obsession system is futile, there will still be people out there who are compulsive and just cant stop ever. i have a boyfriend whos always tiding up, so much its anoyying really. but he just wont stop. he strives for perfection, as do i but im not as persistant. there will always be that person whos going to die. u cant blame the game, whats these gamers real lives like? ive never even played world of war craft just cause i dont need to have a game that needs so much attention, although i love games...dnt die on me =D

you are very retarded and stuff...but i just wanted to say that age of conan has best graphic ever and it has many awards..just sayin' :)

It's ignorant kids like you who know absolutely nothing about psychology that allow others to continually fall victim to WoW and it's subliminal messages aka unethical psychological warfare techniques.

Not going to speak ill of the dead but what I will say is that in all things we must find moderation. Too much of anything can be damning. So be sure to take a break from the virtual world and invest in this reality.

Yet more proof that Blizzard uses psychological warfare tactics such as subliminal messages on their vulnerable players. I stopped playing WoW a long time ago for a couple of very good reasons.
1. WoW has always been the most overrated and overhyped mmorpg in history. If you actually play it objectively, you'll quickly discover the game is of average quality at best. And yes, 12 million people can be wrong because they are. The game is overly repetitive with poor gameplay features.
2. Ever wonder why WoW is the only case of people playing it to death? No video game is history, even the best video games known to the industry, have caused players to kill themselves over the game. Dying over WoW is far from being proof that it's "that good". Truth is, WoW is an average quality mmorpg at best. The reason these poor kids are losing their lives and killing themselves over the game is because the game USES subliminal messages and other unethical methods to keep their players interested.
3. WoW has used its financial pulled from Vivendi to blitz the attention of gamers via a unprecedented marketing campaign aka propaganda (psychological warfare tactic. Modern day businesses know this, that's why they use the innocent looking term "marketing" and "advertising" instead). Blizzard actually admitted to lying about the 12 million player sub numbers, as they put it "fluffed the numbers", to sucker other people into purchasing the game. Blizzard, Activision Blizzard now since it sold out even more, is the shady car salesmen and scam artist of the video game industry. Even their older products are of poor quality; WC3, SC1, and D2. Only reason their products got popular is because players could play them for free via pirated copies and it was easy to LAN. Plus the hordes of custom user maps that kept them entertaining.
4. The quality of the community is even worse than the game's. People troll the forums and the game chat 24/7. Not to mention all the gold farming spam and general amount of people with very poor attitudes and serious real life issues that vent them on WoW. Additionally, nearly every play is out for themselves, they generally do not care about helping others. They only help others as long as it benefits themselves as well.
5. Blizzard was a very small company before WoW and D2 was reported to afflict players with addiction issues as well. Again, this is not an issue of "Blizzard games being that good". This is simply an issue of Blizzard, even in its older games, using subliminal messages to keep their players hooked on what they would otherwise see as somewhat decent month long distraction.
6. WoW literally does ruin lives. Other than death, the game has ruined millions of marriages, friendships, relationships, and family relations. Yes, many marriages and relationships do tend to end, but in many of these cases the couples were experiencing a perfectly healthy and content relationship until the WoW came into the picture. Once again, it's very important to understand the fact that WoW ruining lives in many ways is not a testament to "how good" the game is. Simply a matter of Blizzard being very good at psychologically manipulating their players with subliminal messages. Plenty of proof that WoW is often a life destroyer here: http://www.wowaholics.org/

Just pointing out that Blizzard is hardly the only company to do these sorts of things, and hardly the worst at it either.