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June 28th, 2005, 12:13 GMT

Standing-up for Longhorn

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Longhorn doesn't owe anything to Mac OS X. The display engine is not a unique concept (we've been asking for this for several decades), and Spotlight is no comparison to WinFS. The built-in search engine in Longhorn will also trump Google's ability to search for files on the computer. Google's only advantage right now is searching the web, but now that they've recently filed a new patent which details a lot of their ranking formula I expect the quality of their searches to decrease rapidly for a long time (search engine optimizers love search engine patents,) so they might be equals as far as web searches go. I love Google as it is today, but realistically they will be declining in quality for a while.

Why wouldn't the new graphics interface be successful? Not only is it drop-dead gorgeous aesthetically, but also technologically because it reduces the amount of work the CPU has to do (current Windows use the CPU to draw to the screen, those CPU resources can be dedicated to something more important). Also due to the offloading to the video card, multitasking will be massively
enhanced. Flickering, partial screen redrawing, slow multi-tasking, etc. are things of the past. Not to mention that Avalon requires very little from developers (if nothing) to support programs. There's absolutely no reason why Avalon won't take off.

RSS/SLE is questionable. I do not have any opinions or guesses as to whether or not it will be successful. Microsoft has over 60,000 employees and the RSS team makes a *very* small percentage of them, so it if doesn't take off then no harm was done. I personally don't care for SLE, it doesn't provide anything new. However, I do think that more web sites will open the door to feed aggregators because of this.

Why don't you think that people will use the integrated security features? Protected Administrator and Least-privilege User Access will improve security by leaps and bounds and will require users to manually circumvent it (for what reason? I couldn't possibly fathom a scenario beyond people trying to bash Microsoft and spread FUD.) Because of least-privilege user access, programs will be required to use the Application Data directories and those are encrypted for enhanced privacy on multi-user systems. Not to mention that the encryption could prevent credit card numbers and stuff from being accessible to malicious people who buy old systems and try recovering files. Maintenance is also reduced because of the least-privilege user access system because there are less serious problems and less garbage spread through the filesystem and registry. The firewall has been fitted with proactive protection so it can learn of internet-based vulnerabilities from Windows Update and prevent anything similar to MSBlaster from ever causing the user problems and will disable the proactive protection once a patch has been installed. You'd have to go out of your way to hurt security on Longhorn!

And Internet Explorer doesn't even understand the concept of RSS? Get your facts straight buddy. Internet Explorer 7 has the ability to subscribe to RSS feeds.

Longhorn's stability will go beyond what we currently experience, and even XP is extremely stable. In fact, I have only had one blue screen of death on XP and that was because a memory stick had gone bad (thus, not XP's fault.) Windows Server 2003 had undergone a completely different development model that dramatically increased stability and increased security over previous versions. Longhorn is built off of the Windows Server 2003 code base and is using the same development model. Longhorn will be extremely stable and secure.

Longhorn's requirements aren't that bad either. 512mb of RAM is the *recommended* amount, not the required amount. Longhorn is much more scalable than previous versions of Windows, it will probably be able to run with just 128mb of RAM because all of the extras can be disabled and it will be able to use the 2000-style themes like previous versions of Windows. 256mb of RAM will likely be the requirement, but as always you can run well under that value (I have XP Pro SP2 running with 96mb of PC-133 RAM and it runs acceptably, and that's below XP's requirements.) Even if the recommended amount was 1 GB, that's only $50 (including shipping) from Kingston. If you can't afford 1 GB of RAM, you probably shouldn't even be interested in advancing computer technology anyway.

As for Microsoft ignoring online activities regarding communication and gaming, that is FUD if I have ever seen it. Internet Explorer's rendering engine is available to all programmers on Windows, they integrated a decent firewall, web application controls, enabled HTML applications, online-enabled PC games, Xbox live, Xbox 360 live, MSN Games, Windows messenger, MSN Messenger, administrative alerts, Hotmail, Outlook, Outlook Express, suing spammers, SQL Server, etc. What in the world could they possibly be ignoring regarding online activities? I cannot think of a single instance where that statement holds even a bit of credibility.

The only component that has been dropped from Longhorn, as far as I'm aware, is the desktop side bar. Thank goodness, it was a horrible idea anyways (it accomplished the same things as small notification icons that hide themselves.) Monad, the powerful command system, will make a very small appearance in Longhorn and development will continue for many years after. WinFS will not be included by default but development is still continuing and will be made available for Longhorn. I can't think of anything else that was supposedly dropped.

And if you're expecting Beta 1 to even come close to reflecting the capabilities of Longhorn then you will be sadly disappointed. Like all other versions of Windows, it will be nowhere near its capabilities until Beta 2. Besides, betas are testing software, NOT preview software.

Please quit spreading FUD. You were playing Russian Roulette when you started writing this editorial without doing a single bit of research.

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Comment #1 by: megamanXplosion on 28 Jun 2005, 15:47 UTC reply to this comment

Wow :D

I wasn't even expecting to see a reply! I would've never guessed that Softpedia would create a whole new category for rebuttals and my response would be the first to enter the spotlight. I am honored :)

Comment #1.1 by: ARTIOM on 29 Jun 2005, 13:15 GMT

Lol, OMG, what will be the point to upgrade to longhorn with all the features switched off, so that you could run it on a machine with 128mb of ram, you might as well be runing xp or something even older.

About the securitu, longhorn will probably get hacked god knows how many thousand times in the first week of it's release, you ust be really silly that microsoft can produce anything which is remotely secure, that is the best joke iv herd in my entire whole life.

Internet explorer supporting rssonly because other browsers do it, I would be really surprised to hear of explorer in few years time since browsers like firefox, safari and netscape are just so much better.

Even when microsoft does release windows to the general publick, even then you could still count it as beta 3, 4 or 5 due to the amount of faults it's got.

About microsoft going to xbox, I am really sory to say but the only reason why people bought xbox to start with is because it is more powerfull then ps2 since this is not going to be a case with ps3, I will be very surprised if xbox 360 will make any profit for microsoft, without any dount sonyplaystation will be the king of the hill for a long time.

By the looks of it microsoft trying to get their hand on everything, but are failing miserably.

Comment #1.2 by: ARTIOM on 29 Jun 2005, 13:17 GMT

Aw ye one more thing forgot to mention, windows xp doesn't crash lol that is the second best joke I've herd, windows xp does crash, will crash and nothing will stop it crashing enless microsoft desides to go open source, but comon do you really think that that will ever happen? NO!!!!!

Comment #1.3 by: megamanXplosion on 29 Jun 2005, 16:19 GMT

The security enhancements that Longhorn provides trumps those currently available in Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 if you want to be picky. In my honest opinion, that's enough reason to upgrade.

Longhorn hacked? Of course it will get hacked at some point in time, nobody is claiming perfection (perfection can never be achieved because human stupidity is insurmountable.) Afterall, once you open a port on the firewall you open yourself up to an attack. Do you honestly believe that Linux or Unix is hack-proof? Unix/Linux definately do offer better security "out of the box" in comparison to Windows XP; however, they are not inpenetrable like many would love for you to believe.

Longhorn hacked thousands of times in the first week of its release, though? I highly doubt that. It seems that you are more interested in bashing Microsoft than you are with reality. You would make a very fine sensationalistic journalist.

Programs on Longhorn run with the least amount of privileges they require to run. This drastically reduces the window of opportunity for a successful hack to occur (even moreso if people would keep the firewall on.) Even if someone were to get hacked, the hacker would need to gain administrator privileges to do cause problems for the user, and they more than likely will not get it. Even if the user is running under an administrator account (which is the source of 95% of the problems plaguing Windows today), the programs themselves will still be running under normal user privileges (the only software that will get administrator privileges are anti-virus software, back-up software, defragmentors, etc.) Even if the hacker was able to bypass the firewall and get into the user's account (which should have a password on it,) they would still be sandboxed by Longhorn's least-privilege user access and protected administrator features. If a hacker can even get that far, you should probably read up about security for five minutes and apply what you learned because you had to be doing something incredibly wrong.

Longhorn will undoubtedly get hacked, just like any other operating system; however, Longhorn's security has been massively improved over previous versions of Windows.

As for Internet Explorer, I think they are doing it because of other browsers too. So what? I'm not really sure I agree with you about Netscape being better than Internet Explorer (Netscape is horrible, in my honest opinion), but I agree about the other browsers you mentioned. Firefox, Safari, and Opera (my personal favorite on Windows and Linux) are all inherently superior to Internet Explorer in practically every category (standards compliance, security, aesthetics, usability, accessibility, etc.)

Count Longhorn as beta 3? I guess you could say the same for Linux and Unix too. I've had so many problems even getting Linux to install that I've lost almost a hand-full of hair (coincidentally, they couldn't figure out my keyboard - which you can find at every walmart in every country, and some would install but didn't understand my logitech usb mouse - which you can also get at every walmart in every country. I managed to get a few of them installed with my keyboard and mouse working correctly, but none of those will allow me to get online because they don't understand my modem. That's a crying shame too, as a web developer I was hoping to add Konqueror to my testing cycle. Anyways, back to the point I was making, there is no such thing as a completed peice of software - feel free to ask any programmers you know if that statement holds any water.

Concerning the xbox vs ps2 comments, those don't even relate to the discussion. The only reason xbox was ever mentioned was because the original editorial claimed that Microsoft was ignoring things like online gaming, and that is absurd.

I've never had Windows crash, at least not that I can recall. If it does crash then the explorer.exe process is restarted in a matter of seconds, no big deal. The majority of crashes that occur in Windows are the result of bad hardware drivers anyway. If you stick to well-tested drivers, you shouldn't experience any problems.


Comment #2 by: ARTIOM on 29 Jun 2005, 22:10 UTC reply to this comment

One thing to point out, you are saying that longhorn going to have such a great security, wasn't xp ment to be the same? I'm sure microsoft was saying that it is the most secure system, and look what it turned out to be.Aw ye same things happend to every single version of windows, forgot to mention that.

I never said that linux or unix are unhacable, but for sure they are a lot more stable and more secure.

Just out of interest, how do you know what longhorn going to feature, microoft saying all those things, like how secure os going to be and bla bla bla.... but comon, they are saying same things about every new release of the operating system, so that people would upgrade to it, do you really belive microsoft going to release anything which is secure.

And all the privelages and stuff that you mentiond that are comin to longhorn, mac os x had them since 2000, gosh it took microsoft to do the same thing 6 (maybe even more depence on the release of longhorn) years later.

I wouldn't count none of the linux or unix or even apples new systems when they come out as beta due to one reason that they actually work when they come out and they have more securinty then windows cud ever provide at this stage.

Comment #2.1 by: megamanXplosion on 30 Jun 2005, 03:04 GMT

Windows XP was never touted as the most secure operating system that has ever been conceived. It was touted to be the most secure Windows operating system, and that's true.

Despite what Microsoft claims, I have never been a person to follow blindly. The techniques that are being deployed in Longhorn are the same utopian concepts you'll find in every good security book (in other words, it's not marketing fluff.)

Longhorn also gives OS X's FileVault a run for its money for the simple fact that Longhorn supports full-volume encryption. Full volume encryption is just the beginning of what they're implementing with the Next Generation Secure Computing Base too. Keyboards will communicate to the computer with encrypted signals only the user's application can figure out (essentially, a jail) so it prevents key loggers from working. There are many other additions being made to Longhorn, search Google for information about NGSCB, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised how far they'll be after 6 years of development.

Longhorn has the potential to be the most secure operating system available to desktop users.

Linux/Unix and Mac OS X have more security than "windows cud ever prodive at this stage"? I'm sorry but it sounds like you have done absolutely no research on the security enhancements being developed for Longhorn, so I fail to see how you could possibly make such a statement without a huge dose of bias.

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