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April 30th, 2010, 14:24 GMT · By Lucian Constantin
Romanian Nationalists Hit Several Italian Media Outlets |
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The group of Romanian hacktivists calling themselves Romanian National Security (RNS) have attacked and defaced multiple websites belonging to the biggest Italian public television company Radiotelevisione Italiana (RAI), as well as leading Italian newspapers La Stampa and Corriere della Sera. The message left behind on the hacked Web properties condemns the association of the Romanian people with the Romani ethnic group, commonly referred to as gypsies.
RNS is a group of Romanian nationalist hackers who appear to have taken issue with how some international publications depict Romania and its people. Their initial hit was carried out earlier this month against renowned British newspaper The Daily Telegraph and resulted in the defacement of two websites hosted under the telegraph.co.uk domain.
A week later, the group retaliated in a similar fashion against reputable French newspaper Le Monde for a joke made by humorist Jonathan Lambert during a TV show on national television. The staged performance, which had Lambert present the so-called "new Romanian salute" by imitating a beggar with his hand raised, was strongly criticized in Romania for being offensive and racist. Romanian security blog HackersBlog reports that www.citizenreport.rai.it, a community website owned and operated by the Italian public service broadcaster RAI, was hacked by members of the RNS via SQL injection. The hackers left behind a message, expressing anger at the local media. The attacks on Italian publications continued with complete defacements of tuttoaffari.lastampa.it and citymusiclab.city.corriere.it/eventi/, two websites belonging to La Stampa and Corriere della Sera, respectively. At the time of writing this article, the index pages of both sites display a shield logo in the colors of the Romanian flag and the same threatening message used in the Radiotelevisione Italiana hack.
"It's time to close our fingers into a fist and unforgivingly strike as many times as need be, for you to reap the harvest of your lies. We promise you will not forget about Romania and her past again. We, descendants of Trajan and Decebalus, are not a nation of gypsies! We have run out of patience and, in the name of Romanians everywhere, we warn that if you don't stop presenting our entire people as Romani or gypsies, even more tricolor flags [reference to Romania's red, yellow and blue flag] will be raised; until all untruths are exposed and apologies are issued," the message signed by RNS reads. A Romanian saying, roughly translating into "Eagles may occasionally fly lower than chickens, but chickens will never soar in the sky," is displayed at the bottom, while Ciprian Porumbescu's Ballad for Violin and Orchestra plays in the background. Mirrors of the defaced websites are available via MirrorTurk for the RAI and Corriere della Sera attacks and Zone-H for the La Stampa one. According to HackersBlog, RNS members also found vulnerabilities on lordine.it, storialibera.it, giornaledicalabria.it, unita.it, pontediferro.org and momentosera.it, but these websites have not yet been defaced.
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| Comment #1 by: Eric on 30 Apr 2010, 19:58 UTC | reply to this comment | I certainly don't think Romanians are gypsies. I think they are bitter hacker criminals with no sense of humor.
I'm a minority, and people make jokes about my minority group constantly, as well as miss-representing them with stereotypes. It happens to a lot of people, actually. The proper response is definitely not hacking everyone that pokes fun at you. That's called being childish and petty.
I'm sure that most Romanians are able to take these mis-representations in stride and are very adult; but it is a shame that the small minority of hackers gives all of Romania a bad name. |
| Comment #1.1 by: Razvan on 05 May 2010, 21:46 GMT | You see Eric, in Romania, the romanian people isn't the minority. We represent 90% of the population. The gypsies (romanian Rromany) represent 2.5% of the population. Perhaps now it's a lot less, ast they have migrated into the wealthyer countries of the EU. So I don't see your point. Oh, and you are very clever to call 20 million people "bitter hacker criminals".
The french "joke" reffers to romanians. And to call a romanian a gipsy is a very insulting and racist thing. At least for me. |
| Comment #2 by: Jorge on 01 May 2010, 17:24 UTC | reply to this comment | This group also attack UK Telegraph and Lemonde websites as you can see here http://zone-h.org/archive/notifier=Romania |
| Comment #3 by: Panait on 03 May 2010, 15:37 UTC | reply to this comment | @Eric, you make an interesting point, but I'm not quite so sure other minorites are as misrepresented as Romanians, frankly. Romanians are in a funny position vis-a-vis Gypsies you see, because in some western media outlets, when there is a story about, for example, Albanian or Slovak gypsies, they do say in their articles, "Albanian gypsies" or "Slovak Gypsies" or perhaps "Albanian Romanies", etc. however when it's a case of Romany people from Romania, they just say "Romanians". For the overwhelming majority of Romanians living in whatever country this happens to be in, who work, pay taxes, and are net contributors to the economy, it doesn't sit very well at all to be stereotyped as beggars and thieves, hence the problem. In my view, you are right that the RNS do not transmit their message with any sense of humor, and that is a regrettable thing. On the other hand, their defacement of a website is infinitely less harmless than the harm done to the hard working Romanian people and communities of the countries where the mislabelling goes on in the media outlets being attacked. It takes very little time to fix a website, but it may take a lot longer to repair a damaged national image. Bear in mind also that these "ripostes" against the media outlets are not even racist against the gypsies or ethnic Romany people. People the world over should indeed be aware of the special and unfavorable economic and cultural circumstances the Gipsy people find themselves in, and try to help them overcome these. But by mislabelling them, the Gypsies, as Romanians, it is in fact the media outlets who are racist, not the RNS by a long shot. |
| Comment #4 by: Tibby on 07 May 2010, 12:32 UTC | reply to this comment | "I think they are bitter hacker criminals with no sense of humor. "
Do you find humor in such an insult as being called a gipsy all over the world, just because you are a romanian? It's not funny you idiot! There should be no sense of humor, justice must not be funny, justice must hurt the ones that hurt the romanian people! BRAVO RNS! |
| Comment #5 by: Adrie665 on 09 May 2010, 11:41 UTC | reply to this comment | The thing is that the normal people from UK, France or Italy would not have said the romanians are gypsies if the would not have seen it called like that in the media. correct if i am wrong, but the media isn't supposed to research something before they say something to the public???? where is there research? they are just some idiots that don't like romanians. and i don't blame them 100%. the gypsies are to blame... i've seen them in markets begging and saying in italian, perfect italian "help me, I'm romanian and I am hungry". now lets think...do you really think that a gypsy that doesn't speak well romanian can speak perfect italian? no....of course not....they are not romanians but they say they are...i don't know why, but i tell you this....it is about time someone does something about it...and i assure you that every romanian that is called gypsy will defend his nationality and his country, but how much can 1 person do? i am glad that RNS has taken action on this matter. |
| Comment #6 by: Burebista on 11 May 2010, 21:28 UTC | reply to this comment | Gypsies come o Germany and beg in supermakets. People say, poor romanians, they steal because they have 13 children.
The state offers them work, cloths, food, house and though they go stealing from people pockets an begging naked in a civilised city. They make many children and send them to beg and steal. Before the children can walk, they are shown fast naked to people saying "look, I have a little child but no cloths and food for it!". They would not take any food but only money.
Gypsies are a shame to Romania!
Zigeuner sind eine Schande für Rumänien!
Tiganii sunt o rusine pentru Romania!
BRAVO R.N.S.! |
| Comment #6.1 by: daan on 20 Aug 2010, 12:03 GMT | Not only they show the childs naked, but the cripple them and make them beg on the streets showing them with no legs or arms.
Bravo R.N.S!
Too bad i didn't know about you earlier. We never know in Romania all these things. The news presents only murders in the streets, accidents and explosion of some kind of reservoir leaving 3 people dead. The media from Romania never show what's really important. And we are presented in our media like we are some plague in our country. |
| Comment #7 by: [skaarj] on 29 May 2010, 08:55 UTC | reply to this comment | The oldest document about Gypsies is found in the Byzantine Empire, inside a text from the year 1088 which tells about the "Adsincans", who were practicing black magic and bad things. European history of the Gypsies begins in the middle of the 14th century, when they arrived in Asia Minor Turkey. Between 1415-1419 they could be found in all Central Europe from Hungary to Germany. In 1422 many Gypsies arrived in Italy. As we can see, their Italian history is older, before Gypsies arrived from Romania. In the next decade they arrived in France, Spain, England and also Scandinavia. Here they call themselves "Egyptians" and this is how they got their well-known name "Gypsies".
As we can all see, they came to Europe from India through Asia Minor and they have nothing in common to the Romanian people, nothing in common to Hungarians (they arrived 600 years earlier), to French or Spanish. They were banished from India and they were even payed in gold to leave that country - that is where they have all their big money. And they make gold payments only among themselves - paper money has no real value.
Gypsies have an interesting strategy: when they were forced to leave India, no other country wanted them (everyone received warnings from India about how bad Gypsies are) so they had to hide their origin. The three Romanian countries (which became today's Romania) decided to allow them to stay. And they took the name "Rom".
They also arrived to Greece and they took the name "Athinganis" or "Atsinganos" (also the name of a Greek religious group meaning "the untouchables").
A Gypsie comminity is called "Shatra" and it comes from the indian word "Kshatria" (The warriors clan - a clan they never belonged to).
"Tigan/Zigeneur/Zingaro/Zigeunen" comes from "Athinganos" - the greek religious group.
Gypsy comes from Egyptians and that is how they presented themselves, as Egyptians Christians pilgrimages, to get houses and food for free.
In New York they are called "Yansser". This word comes from "Yennycher" (Turkis language - Ienicer) and it means "Turkish soldier" (that fights while walking, not the cavalry)
In German language they are called "Zigeuner" and "Sinti".
In Italian and Spanish they are called Gittano.
In Denmark, Sweden and Finland they are called Tattan (they presented themselves as Tatar nation).
In Romania they took the name "Rom" and later they said that in their language this is written "rrom" (double r).
As we can see, they hide their origin and some times they mask themselves as a different nation or their host nation. That sounds like some horror movie and that is how Hitler was thinking in his madness. After the big war many efforts were made to integrate them into the society. The greatest efforts were made by the Romanian communist government which also accomplished great results. We now have gypsies that can speak many languages/have degree in engineering/teachers/hard workers. But in 1989 everything stopped.
There are two big categories:
1. The traditional gypsies tribes which have strong traditions (one tribe per tradition, as following): music singers, gold jewelery makers, musical instrument builders, cooking pots makers, circus-bear gypsies and a few more which I do not remember right now). These tribes have their honor. You do not see them begging on streets. They are hard workers and have strong traditions. You do not hear about them on TV, except when in rare cases some girl of their kind is somehow raped and she choose to commit suicide in order to protect the honor of her family. Yes, they think like that. As they belonged to a hated people in India, they choosed to hide their origin. And for their honor they deserve to be adopted by the country where they are currently living.
2. The common gypsies (beggars/thieves/garbage collectors). These are the gypsies you can see all over the place. Begging in the cities, keeping their children naked in the streets to beg, breaking their children's hands or legs to impress more and to get more money from begging, even putting their children on the iron train line so the train can cut one leg/one hand - again for begging; stealing from pockets, raping, beating, never washing and all the stuff you hear on TV. When police come to resolve a violent situation between two "common gypsies clans" (Shatras), the gypsy women start to lift their up their skirts (believe me, it is a horrible sight) and even use their children as shields/bats/clubs so policemen are in big difficulty. I am a Romanian in a dirty Romanian city suburb, I lived among Gypsies for many years and believe me what I am telling you is only 10% of the whole story. Any other Romanian here can confirm.
These are the people we tried so hard to integrate into society - this 2nd category. There are social programs for children to go to school, but they usually cause problems to other children (at home a common-gypsy child is never taught to behave). All gypsy young girls (including those from 1st category, but they started to realize this is wrong) are forced to marry at a young age (between 9 and 14 years) like in some Muslim countries. Law says women are allowed to marry from the age of 18 years. But no one can fully force the law on 2nd category gypsies. And many girls are forced to abandon school because at 11..14 years of age they are already pregnant.
I already told you they use to take the name of the people that adopted them. 1st gypsy category really became part of the natives. 2nd gypsy category took the name and used it everywhere. This is what is happening to Romania. When an Italian reads an article about "Romeno" (Romanian) and "Rom" (gypsy), what the *** is he suppose to understand? And how did this happen?
This lexical aggression (rom/rrom/Rome - Italian capital; Romanian/rromani/rromanes - see the beginning of this article to know where double r comes from) was applied to Romania after 1990 in a complex program developed by Soros Foundation for an Open Society in Romania. The language Mr. Soros wanted to replace "tsiganeshte" (țigăneasca) received the name "romalli". This form was grammatically inflexible so it was replace with "romani" and later "rromani". After that, to get closer to the real purpose of this charade, it was again modified with "roma, "romani", "romanes", "romanies" (or with double r). This creates general confusion even at academic intellectual levels in the countries affected by gypsy immigration and crime. So - general confusion. What the *** can anyone understand?
What is so curious - this word "rroma/roma/romalli/romani/rromanes" (single or double r) has no historical roots. Gypsies never had this name in all their history.
People get confused and mistake Romanians with gypsies. And anyone smart can realize - if Nazi Germany hated gypsies so much, why did they make Romania their ally at the beginning of the war? Simple - they knew the difference. We now live in a different society which no longer accepts violence as a solution. But also do not teach people about history. So good job RNS. You should also write this story on the web sites you will "visit" in future. |
| Comment #8 by: Marian on 14 Jul 2010, 21:21 UTC | reply to this comment | Gypsies are nomads and they cant adapt to common life. Before Romania got into EU we were forced to settle part of those nomads. then they got romanian id cards and they go forward in the west. we were acused in that days of bad treatment applied to gypsies.
Now romanians believe that gypsies with the help of eu and soros ngos will be forcefuly inclusioned into the romanian society not through work but through this trick "the term rroma" which in fact was "doma people" or I dont know. But like somebody before me said it is about gypsi behaviour in tryieng to cheat. I dont want Romania to be considered the place of gypsies even if they do not have territorial claims we dont want them back, we want west to deal with that problem because yes we are racists romanians |
| Comment #9 by: Tembelu on 17 Jul 2010, 14:56 UTC | reply to this comment | Prieteni, un nebun arunca o piatra in lac si 100 de oameni se chinuie sa o scoata. Nu puteti fi rezonabili? Cine-i Eric asta? Lasati-l domnilor si doamnelor in pace cu nebunia lui. Eu consider gestul hackerilor excelent si de bun augur, sunt singurii care lovesc in partile moi ale nesuferitilor astia de occidentali xenofobi si ii fac sa-si muste degetele lor unsuroase de cati bani fura in loc sa ajute tari aflate in mizerie si saracie. |
| Comment #9.1 by: alex_dela_chapelle on 14 Dec 2010, 04:17 GMT | Bravo informaticienilor români! Trebuia facut ceva contra xenofobiei, inculturii occidentale, si dispretului afisat contra "les pays de l'est" printre care si România. E drept ca orice padure are uscaturile sale, dar de aici a compara o tara care a trecut prin multe si s-a batut cruntt ca sa existe ca natiune sa fie coparata sau considerata ca fiind compusa numai de tigani este un enorm dispret si o negare a existentei României, ceea care este cu adevarat. Nici mai buna nici mai rea ca alte tari dar care are o istorie în urma sa. Ar fi multe de spus dar închid spunând înca o data: Bravo informaticienilor români! daca as putea, mi-ar place sa fac parte din acest R.N.S.! Nu sunt mare informatician dar sunt mândru ca sunt român.
Alex |
| Comment #10 by: Magyar on 11 Sep 2011, 18:58 UTC | reply to this comment | When visiting Sofia, Bulgaria, Vladimir Zhirinovsky Russian MP announced that neighbouring Romania was, in his view, an artificial state created by Italian gypsies who seized territory from Russia, Bulgaria and Hungary. | |
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