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January 23rd, 2010, 11:07 GMT · By

Particle Collisions Can Result in Black Holes

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Particle collisions can form black holes, but only under very specific conditions
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Over the last few years, numerous controversies have sprung up around massive particle accelerators such as the Large Hadron Collider (LHC). Most often, critics fear that these giant machines will produce particle collisions that are so energetic that they could give birth to very small black holes. Physicists say that this is entirely probable, and that creating artificial black holes would be a major scientific achievement. But many fear that the structures would get out of hand, and gobble up the entire planet, and they have even petitioned the United Nations to put an end to the LHC.

Now, for the first time, a computer simulation shows that the scenario in which tiny black holes are produced under Einstein's famous theory of general relativity is entirely possible, and even likely. The respected physicist Albert Einstein said on several occasions that such an event is possible, but this is the first time this has been experimentally proven to be true. “I would have been surprised if it had come out the other way. But it is important to have the people who know how black holes form look at this in detail,” says physicist Joseph Lykken, who is based at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory (Fermilab), in Batavia, Illinois.

In a study published in the respected scientific journal Physical Review Letters, experts say that the computer model used in the new investigations took into account the forces of gravity that occur between two colliding particles, as well as advanced mathematical calculations referring to the general theory of relativity. ScienceNow reports that black holes can only form when particles collide at one-third of the fundamental limit known as the Planck energy. This data alone should put LHC critics at rest. The Planck energy is a quintillion (10^18) times higher than the particle accelerator's maximum energy output, which peaks at 7 Tev per beam, or 14 Tev combined.

“I would be extremely surprised if there were a positive detection of black-hole formation at the accelerator,” says expert Matthew Choptuik, from the University of British Columbia, in Vancouver, Canada. Together with Princeton University colleague Frans Pretorius, he created the computer model that was used for these investigations. “It's a real tribute to their skill that they were able to do this through a computer simulation,” adds University of California in Santa Barbara (UCSB) gravitational theorist Steve Giddings. The bottom line is that, for now, we can rest assured that the possibility of black holes being created at the LHC is extremely small.

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Comment #1 by: ZapperZ on 24 Jan 2010, 12:58 UTC reply to this comment

Re-read your report again. This has not been "experimentally proven"! It is a theoretical study and simulation.

Zz.


Comment #2 by: adam on 25 Jan 2010, 00:01 UTC reply to this comment

Oh I guess they'll have to build a bigger one, then!
How much this time 50 billion, lots of well paid jobs for geeks playing at God.


Comment #3 by: richard murray on 02 Feb 2010, 13:37 UTC reply to this comment

'The bottom line is that, for now, we can rest assured that the possibility of black holes being created at the LHC is extremely small. '

with even a chance is it worth the risk?

Comment #3.1 by: Tudor Vieru on 02 Feb 2010, 15:19 GMT

Of course it is. Otherwise, the world would never progress scientifically. Most major discoveries were made by taking chances, and the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. And discovering this boson would arguable be one of the most important findings ever.

Comment #3.2 by: Zephir on 18 Mar 2010, 01:11 GMT

The contribution of collider experiments to economy during recent fifty years was infinitesimal, so we can expect, the finding of Higgs boson during further fifty years would be completelly useless, too. We cannot spent all our money for research of Pluto planet just because it's interesting and possible - some priorities in research funding must exist here. The relative advance in collider research is the product of cold war and arm race and it's separated from real needs of society. So far, after fifty years of collider research we have no usage for any of hundreds of particle, prepared in colliders - so it's evident, the usefulness of such research will be quite limited in further fifty years, too. In particular cases, such too advanced research could even become dangerous for civilization, because of various supersymmetry effects..

Whereas extremely important findings in cold fusion or room temperature superconductivity are simply overlooked for many years (compare the Arata's or J.F.Prins's research) - although we can find immediate usage for it! Such principal imbalance is what makes investments into science ineffective. Science is not supposed to be a salary generator for limited group of privileged scientists - it's purpose is to help the rest of society - or the society wouldn't help the scientists at the case of financial crisis.


Comment #4 by: joe from cocomo on 10 Feb 2010, 18:54 UTC reply to this comment

How big are the rewards from the LHC. Are they bigger than unmeasurable? -Harry Wertmuller


Comment #5 by: Zephir on 18 Mar 2010, 01:08 UTC reply to this comment

Well, even LHC is expected to find extradimensions, too - which is really great:

http://futurismic.com/2008/02/04/the-lhc-may-find-extra-dimensions/

In addition, Randall-Sundrum model predicts the formation of small black holes at LHC, which would serve as an evidence of extra-dimensions, too

http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/34938

Therefore, the formation of such black holes is expected by many physicists at LHC. Some evidence of black hole formation was observed already at Tevatron in FermiLab.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Particle-Collisions-Can-Results-in-Black-Holes-132948.shtml
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006hep.ph....6193B

The "only problem" is, just these extra-dimensions could make these black holes stable, as recent computer simulations demonstrated. Such black hole wouldn't evaporate, but they would behave like so-called strangelets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strangelet

I'd really recommend to take all warnings seriously. Scientists don't (want to) know, what they're playing with - what they're really care are just their jobs in CERN. I'm not the only one, who knows about it.

http://tinyurl.com/yz2badk
http://tinyurl.com/ya4zmm6
http://tinyurl.com/yz2badk

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