Opera Is Dead, Desktop Browser Replaced with Chromium, WebKit on Mobile
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- Opera is dead
Opera has called it a day. After almost two decades in the browser business, Opera has officially quit.
The company announced
that it is going to adopt the WebKit engine for all of its browsers on mobile platforms, something not particularly surprising
, but also that it is stopping development of its desktop browser and will start supporting Chromium, the open source version of Chrome.
Basically, this means that Opera will no longer be developing its own HTML layout engine, Presto, and that it will slap an Opera label on Chromium
and call that its desktop browser.
There aren't many details, but what is there is enough to know what comes next. Opera as we've known it is dead; the move may turn out to be a great one for the company, but it won't be the same company.
Without its own engine or even its own desktop browser, Opera is now just another company that rebrands Chromium and calls it its own browser, on par with Yandex
which makes its own Chrome clone, for example.
In the mobile space, it will be just another company that takes the WebKit engine and slaps some UI elements on top of it. There are now only four major browser makers in the world, Microsoft, Google, Mozilla and Apple, and just three layout engines, Trident, Gecko and WebKit.
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|Comment #1 by: C.C. on 13 Feb 2013, 10:26 UTC|| reply to this comment|
On par with Yandex and Comodo.... jeez.... with Comodo Browser? really? Opera has fallen really low.
|Comment #2 by: Rolfen on 13 Feb 2013, 10:36 UTC|| reply to this comment|
The article sums up very well what I think.
|Comment #3 by: heh on 13 Feb 2013, 10:44 UTC|| reply to this comment|
seriously... I love Opera on the desktop as it is now, faster than any other browser, lighter on memory than any other browser and with a VERY CONFIGURABLE speed dial on the new tab page unlike Chrome
|Comment #3.1 by: Jose_49 on 13 Feb 2013, 11:44 GMT|
I agree on you with the last part, though. This is also my favorite browser... it will be a shame see it go.
|Comment #3.2 by: CruzZ on 06 Apr 2013, 06:05 GMT|
Don't think that Opera will simply become in another clone, they may add their unique and great feature to this new browser version. People behind Opera has proved they're innovative, they created things that later appeared in FireFox and developed features that nobody else dared to use on their browsers.
If Opera is adopting Chromium for good, they will create new features and add their old and great features to its new project, if not, well, you can say they're dead.
|Comment #4 by: opera fan on 13 Feb 2013, 11:34 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Instead of stopping development opera could have made its software open source. I like opera. I feel sad now.
|Comment #5 by: Jenny Telia on 13 Feb 2013, 12:11 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Chrome is not "the open source version of Chrome". Chrome is Google's derivative of Chromium. Correct credit where credit is due....
|Comment #5.1 by: Lucian Parfeni on 13 Feb 2013, 12:37 GMT|
Google builds Chromium and it builds it with Google Chrome in mind. The fact that it's called Chromium in the early stages of development doesn't change anything, anything that gets added, gets added to benefit Chrome. Chromium was even launched several months after Chrome.
|Comment #6 by: Aman on 13 Feb 2013, 13:20 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Beaten your fans hands down. May be move is profitable for company but what about developers and trusted users base? Only option is left for loyal users to go for FF. Good bye OPERA.
|Comment #7 by: Silenthill on 13 Feb 2013, 14:11 UTC|| reply to this comment|
What the hell happened exactly ?
|Comment #8 by: John on 13 Feb 2013, 15:20 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Lot 666. The phantom of the Opera. Sold! Your number, sir? 1.0 x 10^100
They betrayed us...
|Comment #9 by: darkrats on 13 Feb 2013, 21:43 UTC|| reply to this comment|
As long as they don't * down the UI like all the other "chrome" browsers, they should be able to retain their user base. Otherwise there's no reason to stay with Opera.
|Comment #10 by: Mega Opera Browser Lover on 13 Feb 2013, 23:23 UTC|| reply to this comment|
* this the saddest thing i ever read *
|Comment #11 by: Abhilash on 14 Feb 2013, 05:10 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I think this news isn't correct. Opera as an official software is still active and the downloads on their official website are still in place. Tell me if I'm wrong !
|Comment #11.1 by: Deekshith on 17 Feb 2013, 05:45 GMT|
Opera did'nt switch to webkit yet. It has just planned to switch. It may take it an year or so for Opera to completely switch to Webkit.
It has already rolled out a Webkit version of its mobile browser on iOS.
|Comment #11.2 by: Opera Fanboy on 18 Feb 2013, 11:46 GMT|
Opera said that they'll be moving to Webkit over the course of the year and that they'll start with their new mobile browser "Ice" in the next couple of months; desktop versions will come later.
I have to say, I am really put off by this. What will happen to the integrated M2 mail client? The tab stacking? Speed dial? Integrated RSS? Customizable UI? If Opera just uses the Webkit engine and keeps it's UI and features (like Safari does), then I don't think the move wil be *that* bad.
But the way Opera worded the press release, it sounds like it will be another rebranded spin-off of Chromium, like Yandex, SRWare Iron and Comodo Dragon.
Et tu, Opera?
|Comment #12 by: alexvoda on 14 Feb 2013, 17:13 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Petition to open source Presto:
|Comment #13 by: Landpaddle on 15 Feb 2013, 15:05 UTC|| reply to this comment|
|Comment #13.1 by: nak on 19 Feb 2013, 00:30 GMT|
Agreed. The webkit rendering engine has nothing to do with the higher-level UI components (configuration, handling multiple browser "tabe", etc.). This seems like a positive move, to prevent fracturing browsers further. Now if only Firefox would move to webkit, all would be good ;-).
|Comment #13.2 by: Opera Fanboy on 19 Feb 2013, 01:23 GMT|
I certainly hope you are right about the UI. But in Opera's press release (http://bit.ly/YcgVfQ), the third paragraph reads:
"To provide a leading browser on Android and iOS, this year Opera will make a gradual transition to the WebKit engine, as well as Chromium, for most of its upcoming versions of browsers for smartphones and computers."
The part that worries me is "transition to the WebKit engine, as well as Chromium". I suppose we'll have to see what Opera comes up with. Who knows, it may end up being the best version yet...
|Comment #14 by: quailstorm on 26 Mar 2013, 21:40 UTC|| reply to this comment|
The only rendering engine which doesn't have features like unloading the half of the page, causing render errors, being slow and laggy+ugly on mobiles was presto. I use it everyday, on Symbian, Maemo, and Android. It has no competitirs, and even HTML5 capabilites are good. But the "new" opera, from play store is the wors thing I've ever used. Laggy, uses high amount of CPU and RAM. Ugly rendering, slow, and uncomfortable UI.
Opera, worth it? That was a really bad decision...
|Comment #15 by: steve on 31 Mar 2013, 23:36 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Opera browser isn't the browser that it was in the past reliable and stable ! Today Opera browser can not handle opened web pages, for years now chokes, agressive polutes RAM and then crash ! I can hardly wait for Opera chrome with native mht support otherwise useless ! Mht for chrome as extension sucks and does not work ! I only hope that browser keeps slim and extreme fast otherwise also useless !
|Comment #16 by: Joe Anzalone on 04 Apr 2013, 13:21 UTC|| reply to this comment|
"After almost two decades in the browser business, Opera has officially quit."
They haven't quit the browser business. They're going to stay in the browser business, but use Blink to do it. When I decided to port my website to WordPress from my own crappy templating system, I "quit" working on my crappy templating system, but I didn't quit making websites.
Saying "Opera Is Dead" is a bit sensationalist, don't you think?
|Comment #16.1 by: Lucian Parfeni on 04 Apr 2013, 13:25 GMT|
Slapping an Opera badge on Chromium doesn't make it Opera. Just because something continues in name doesn't mean it's not dead. That's true for both the company and the browser.
Still, maybe there's some hope yet with Blink, maybe Opera will truly focus on innovations in the browser and how we interact with it, now that it doesn't have to worry about the engine so much. We'll see.
|Comment #17 by: Jon Levi on 04 Apr 2013, 22:55 UTC|| reply to this comment|
This is sensationalism if I ever saw it. So anything that uses Webkit is now Chrome?
I remind you that this category of so-called 'Chrome clones' includes many browsers that have a life of their own, including Safari, Maxthon, most Android browsers and EVERY iOS browser. Never mind that half of these preceded Chrome.
Moreover the end user doesn't give a damn about what rendering engine it uses. They're more likely to care about the UI, and whether it has a private browsing mode for pr0n.
|Comment #17.1 by: Lucian Parfeni on 05 Apr 2013, 14:16 GMT|
I think you're confusing Chrome with WebKit or at the very least using the two terms interchangeably. A Chrome clone is not any browser that uses WebKit and that's certainly not what I said.
However, if Opera plans to grab Chromium entirely, do some minor cosmetic modifications and call it a day, then it will be a Chrome clone, the likes of Yandex browser and others.
The WebKit discussion is moot anyway, since Opera has already said that it will be using Google Chrome's Blink and not WebKit.
|Comment #18 by: LucianParfeniSucks on 06 May 2013, 18:52 UTC|| reply to this comment|
and it will keep on its work and surely not dead.
btw, Lucian Parfeni (writer of this article) youre an idiot who likes to make opera fans sad
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