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September 7th, 2010, 13:14 GMT · By

Linux Mint Releases Debian Edition

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The Linux Mint team has been particularly active in recent months. Having released a Linux Mint 9 version for every popular desktop environment out there, and then some, the team has now released a Linux Mint flavour based entirely on Debian.

"Today is very important for Linux Mint. It’s one day to remember in the history of our project as we’re about to maintain a new distribution, a rolling one, which promises to be faster, more responsive and on which we’re less reliant on upstream components," the team announced on the Linux Mint blog.

"Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) comes with a Debian base, which we transformed into a live media and on top of which we added a new installer," the announcement explained.

Linux Mint Debian Edition ditches the Ubuntu base on which Linux Mint releases have relied on so far. Instead it uses a source further upstream, Debian Squeeze, the next major version of the respected Linux distro. UPDATE: As KirkM points out in the comments, LMDE is technically based on Debian Testing, which is currently Squeeze, meaning that once Squeeze goes stable, LDME will be based on the next testing release.

Note that Ubuntu itself is based on Debian so the Linux Mint team has basically decided to cut out the middle man. The team says there are several advantages to doing this, as well as several disadvantages.

On the plus side, it means that users never have to re-install again, the constant stream of updates will ensure that they're always running the latest software. The Debian-based edition is also billed as faster and lighter than the Ubuntu-based one.

However, the downside of the constant updates is that the packages usually come with less testing and are generally less stable then the ones in Ubuntu. Fixes will come faster too, but users should expect a few more rough edges.

For now, the Debian-based version will come with GNOME as the desktop environment and just in the 32-bit flavour. It is also considered somewhat experimental.

While there are no plans for a KDE or a 64-bit version, those may come if there is demand for them.

It also doesn't mean anything for the regular Linux Mint releases, all supported versions, KDE, Xfce, Fluxbox and LXDE, will continue to be built on Ubuntu, just like before.

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Comment #1 by: Jon Wright on 07 Sep 2010, 13:59 UTC reply to this comment

> "all supported versions, KDE, Xfce, Fluxbox and LXDE, will continue to be built on Ubuntu, just like before."

Where did you get this from? My take was that they'll release a version based on a particular desktop environment - based on Ubuntu or Debian - exactly if and when it takes their fancy.

Comment #1.1 by: Lucian Parfeni on 07 Sep 2010, 15:59 GMT

"A 32-bit Debian-based Gnome edition allows us to work on this with the community. When it’s fully on par with the Main Edition and if there is a demand for it, further editions will come for LMDE."
There are no plans to expand beyond GNOME for now, meaning that the regular editions will continue to be built on Ubuntu.

Comment #1.2 by: Jon Wright on 08 Sep 2010, 03:37 GMT

I'll rephrase (can't reply to your reply): "the regular editions, some being not so regular, will continue to be built on Ubuntu, *if* future editions are released".

Actually I wouldn't place so much emphasis on the text you quoted from the blog post. There is considerable interest within the project for pushing ahead with Debian. One prominent member - let's call him #2 - has shown dissatisfaction with Ubuntu and has been emphatically talking up a shift to Debian for some time now,

If you're thinking of installing the current Xfce, Fluxbox or Lxde offering I'd say there's less than a 50/50 chance of a future release based on Ubuntu. Not that this should matter - users of those DEs - I'm one - should be over the moon with a switch to Debian.


Comment #2 by: KirkM on 07 Sep 2010, 15:06 UTC reply to this comment

Just FYI here. LMDE is based on Debian "Testing", not "Squeeze". The difference being that Testing is always following the next new release of Debian and is under constant development (never frozen) where "Squeeze" development will be frozen once released.


Comment #3 by: supergoo on 08 Sep 2010, 04:12 UTC reply to this comment

I have Debian Mint installed and it is running great, not having to reinstall is nice. I encourage people to try it out.


Comment #4 by: anonymous mintuser on 08 Sep 2010, 12:46 UTC reply to this comment

feels great, no difference at all from the users point of view - the same linux mint but on debian . much faster :)


Comment #5 by: Chris on 08 Sep 2010, 13:41 UTC reply to this comment

"However, the downside of the constant updates is that the packages usually come with less testing and are generally less stable then the ones in Ubuntu."

Not from what I've seen. Debian has strict rules on how packages go into testing. A package must sit for at least 10 days, have no critical bugs, won't cause stability problems, and be built for all architectures. I'm sure there's stuff in Ubuntu's universe and multiverse repositories that gets tested


Comment #6 by: Bauer on 08 Sep 2010, 16:13 UTC reply to this comment

LMDE feels great!
A great evolution!


Comment #7 by: Cranberrysauce on 09 Sep 2010, 15:27 UTC reply to this comment

I've tried LMDE and absolutely LOVE it! I think all future developement of LMint should be LMDE. No need for the ubuntu stuff (ubuntu one, gimme a break) stuffed into MY rythmbox, I love it! I love a rolling release even more though, because this finally will be THE distro that influences the masses, it's easy to use and you never have to reinstall and it's got excellent support (being based directly off debian). It's not linux made for windows users, but a linux that windows users can get onboard with (lots of great free stuff and a quality control that matches the best of microsoft).


Comment #8 by: Harley on 10 Sep 2010, 20:31 UTC reply to this comment

I was wondering if you can install this version over linux mint 9?, or will you lose all your old downloads and bookmarks?

Comment #8.1 by: runbei on 14 Sep 2010, 04:31 GMT

Harley - I installed LMDE in the / partition and kept the home partition from Mint 9 - several of my apps ran seamlessly after the install, though quite a few had to be reinstalled. A biggie: the reinstall of Thunderbird picked up my mail and address book without intervention. Oh, say farewell to Flubuntu, Alas, it is no more - Its bugs and ugly glitches Have flown right out the door.

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