I won't try this new KDE release. I have been using the KDE desktop for many years and appreciated its flexibility and user-friendly presentation. But when I upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze, this year, a new version of KDE came together, which was a serious regression. There was no more the possibility to put submenus in the toolbar, which is a "must". The KDE guys have added a new feature called "cashew", an ugly blot in the corners of the screen , but they seem unable to explain what it is, I mean to simple minds like me who don't want to spend weeks to understand it. Anyway I never liked cashews. There is another thing I dislike with KDE: their pretention to provide the whole set of applications one needs on a desktop. I don't see the need to have the same company as my bank, ISP, cell phone operator, butcher and so on. Now on Gnome, by default. I am surprised not to find on the internet an application which would be just a plain, flexible and pretty, toolbar, and nothing more, which might fit with any window manager.