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While porn is slowly but surely making its way into the world of games, it seems that a very serious Japanese company is also willing to explore other sexual aspects that, until now, have been
severely punished and frowned upon. If 'Dokidoki Majosaiban' is indeed aimed at those who tend to think that children, and especially little girls, are sexy, you will judge by yourselves.
The Internet gaming community is all over this latest game that was just released in Japan and this didn't happen because it is that good or that new. It's because many consider it as being on the verge of absurdity, grotesque and perversity, given that it involves the gamer in undressing and inappropriately touching, with a touchpen, a bunch of little girls who don't look older than 10.
It's all actually part of the game, whose title can be roughly translated as 'Exciting Witch Trial'. The person who plays it touches and strips the girls for a reason: to establish (after grouping all the characters together and making them do things... together) which one is human and which one is a witch.
Although the game is already on sale in its native country, the thought of exporting it could be a little disturbing. Even if the female characters from the Japanese games and cartoons have always been said to look like teenage girls, maybe the producers have crossed a certain limit when they designed these ones.
It doesn't sit well with anybody (even if, let's say, for Europe and the US, it got an adult rating) and maybe the gamers and all those involved in the 'Exciting Witch Trial' distribution should ask themselves: will the introduction of child porn and of a sexual tool in a mainstream game affect the way we perceive that which is right and which is wrong?
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|Comment #1 by: piparkaq on 15 Oct 2006, 22:19 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Oh god, please stop spreading this information, that's mostly just bull. Let me point out a few things;
1) The game is about witch-hunting, not girl-hunting
2) The pictures even seen in this article are either some random anime pictures related to the Wii, or other fan-depictions of their vision of the game.
Like the article over at DSFanboy (http://www.dsfanboy.com/2006/10/11/snk-game-is-about-witch-hunting-not-girl-hunting/) says:
" Doki Doki Majo Saiban thrusts the player into the role of an intrepid young man hunting witches who appear human but are not. How can you tell the difference? By touching them. Seems innocent enough off the top, but the game is designed in a rather mature anime style. Now, this is common in Japanese media, and there's an entire genre of games (eroge) that, to non-Japanese audiences, might seem a little ... unusual. That's par for the course – what is anathema in America is acceptable in Europe and common in Japan, and vice versa, switch it around, etc. Sex and violence are handled differently in different countries and cultures."
Read the article. It's probably the best written article on this topic that there's ever been. Get your facts right, goddamnit.
|Comment #2 by: grgspunk on 28 Dec 2006, 05:00 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Saying that you can't play this game because it conflicts with other people's morals/values is the same as saying you can't eat a steak because the rest of your family is vegetarian.
You know what? Putting this game on the same level as REAL child porn is like putting a GTA game on the same level as REAL murder. The latter of which sold over 6 MILLION COPIES.
And I'll bet while you'd love to pounce on this game, you wouldn't think for a second that playing a bloody first person shooter could possibly influence you to commit a violent crime.
You know, you and all sorts of other prudes are beginning to sound like a well-known bastard named "Jack Thompson". Fucking hypocrites.
|Comment #2.1 by: ewan on 29 Dec 2006, 13:15 GMT|
You know, the only fucking hypocrite here is you, dude! There are lots of question marks in this article as to make it, not a matter-of-fact statement (as you took it to be), but... well... a question. Maybe even replying to you is a total waste of time, seeing that you got nothing better to do than go and insult people like this.
Really, get a life, man!
|Comment #3 by: mikeysama on 21 Apr 2007, 00:53 UTC|| reply to this comment|
" it seems that a very serious Japanese company is also willing to explore other sexual aspects that, until now, have been
severely punished and frowned upon."
First of all, its called "lolicon", and its nothing new, particularly in Japan, so stop trying to say that it is. Clearly, you are incapable of telling the difference between cartoons and reality. Sex with children is wrong because it is harmful to the child, physically and mentally. It is a depraved action. Lolicon, which only involves anime characters, is harmless, victimless, and ambigiously legal (the only case in the US involving lolicon was when it was used to against a man in court who also had real-life child porn, and while there is a clause in the Protect Act that could be used against lolicon, it was not written with lolicon in mind, nor has it been used to condemn lolicon specifically). While it is a complicated issue, you simply can't quantify maturity in a cartoon character like you can with a real person. And on the extremely unlikely chance it DEOS get released here, you can be sure that the company bringing it over here will try to claim that the characters are 18 and just look young in order to prevent controversy, like all hentai games with underage characters (take a look at JASC's website, a company that translates h-games, for examples). Do some research next time.
|Comment #4 by: Anonymouss on 28 Apr 2007, 06:40 UTC|| reply to this comment|
mikeysama has his facts wrong even, since lolicon actually translates to pedophile :P. however in the west, I suppose it's accepted as simply "2D underaged girls."
despite this article being fairly old, commenting because this is the first result on google for "doki doki majo saiban"... just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions.
first of all, the porn-game market is booming overseas, where more erotic games come out per year than games total do where I am, the U.S., and as stated before, probably over half of them contain deception of girls under 18.
now I can go into the morals of it all and such, but really, when it comes down it, 2D and real-life are very different and there are plenty of people in their 40s or 50s even that have liked thisstuff for a long time but would never dream of touching a real child.
what I really commented to say is that this article is overall misinformed, and even giving doki doki majo saiban consideration for a local release is somewhat foolish, considering the amount of erotic games from japan commercially released in english is probably less than a dozen or so!
my respect for softpedia.com goes down greatly with this article as it proves they don't do their homework whatsoever - I simply suggest anyone who gets their news here go elsewhere, as this place obviously isn't trustworthy with anything even remotely hard to understand. I could continue disproving things in this article but I think at this point most readers will understand:
you guys are full of b/s.
sorry for the long winded novel above, but I don't appreciate ignorance no matter the subject, and I guess when it comes to things I feel strongly about I'm willing to express that :P.
|Comment #4.1 by: mikeysama on 02 May 2007, 11:14 GMT|
I was referring to the what the word seems to have come to mean in the west. But yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
|Comment #5 by: sukumizu on 28 May 2007, 04:43 UTC|| reply to this comment|
This article is crap. The game doesn't even come out in Japan until July.
|Comment #6 by: Garlyle on 01 Jun 2007, 04:30 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Considering how much this page is linked to, let me clear this up.
1. This game is NOT porn. It is at most a 'little perverted'. The screens that have been shown in this article are NOT real screenshots - not at any point in development. First off, there is no Wii version of this game, and second off, the game never goes as far as is suggested.
2. The contents of this game is not simply 'touching little girls'. The game is set to take place in three phases - investigation, examination, and extermination. The objective of the game is to hunt down witches. Once you've determined a potential subject, you must attempt to raise the girl's heart rate to get the symbol of a witch to appear on them - at which point you have your proof and must fight them. And should you, in your 'interactions' with the girls, try to push them too far, you'll find yourself failing horribly. There are never any 'panty shots' or anything like that, and you certainly can't interact with them.
Long story short, this article would only be decently applicable if it actually knew what the hell it was talking about.
|Comment #7 by: sn4x on 26 Dec 2007, 17:18 UTC|| reply to this comment|
even if this was a porn game, its nothing new, porn games have been out since the 90s and a lot have even made it to the us, and many have under aged people in them, but the thing is, its not looked down upon in japan as it is here, in fact in many anime circles in the us its not looked down upon.
i would love to see your opinion on School Days which actually is an erogame
|Comment #8 by: TimmyB on 11 Jan 2008, 14:51 UTC|| reply to this comment|
A comment to Anonymouss:
Lolicon does not, in fact, "translate" to pedophile. It is a slang portmanteau of the English phrase, "Lolita Complex", which doesn't usually refer to pedophilia.
|Comment #9 by: Darek Pytel on 14 Aug 2008, 22:07 UTC|| reply to this comment|
The trick about using question marks is that you can present your statements almost as if it was a fact and yet act as if the argument can be challenged. Fox News reporters will use such tactics to state their arguments as if they were facts, yet use question marks as a defense mechanism in case one challenges the validity of the statement (e.g. Neil Cavuto stating, 'Bush number one president?') In this article Elena Gorgan asks the reader, "Is 'Doki Doki Majo Saiban' a Porn Game? With Children?" Although at first it seems Elena Gordon is asking the readers to consider that argument, by the end of the article it would seem that the question is rhetorical, for it has only one answer. She then asks the distributors to "ask themselves: will the introduction of child porn and of a sexual tool in a mainstream game affect the way we perceive that which is right and which is wrong? " The way the question is arranged allows for little flexibility, so while you can challenge it, the answer should only be one (at least the way I view the question), that the game is a threat to the morals of society which will break down the barriers for child pornography. Not that I am interested in this game...just the logical fallacies.
|Comment #10 by: dante ray on 11 Oct 2010, 14:28 UTC|| reply to this comment|
let me make this clear:
1 - this game is NOT for children
2 - this game is for people over 18 years
that means that the childrens have
nothing to do with this game, so you
are right, the game companies have to think for make games for childrens
but what about the other growth people?
that game is for they, thas what I think
is right ok? not just see the childrens view point but the growth people too
|Comment #11 by: One World on 24 Jan 2013, 10:14 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Cartoons =/= Reality
No real children harmed = No real problem with the game
I mean, sure it's not something that you or I would play, but I'm not gunna judge others for playing it... So long as they dont touch or hurt a child, I don't really care what they look at or think about to gratify themselves...
Maybe try being a little more open minded and accepting of others?
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