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May 20th, 2012, 11:26 GMT · By

Intel Has No Competitor for AMD’s Trinity

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We were delighted to report about AMD’s Trinity performance in the new and long-anticipated computer game, Blizzard’s Diablo III. We’ve mentioned the imbalance between AMD’s chip and Intel’s processor regarding the power consumption and especially the price, but it seems there’s much more to that.

AMD’s top-performing Fusion mobile part is called A10-4600M and works at a base frequency of 2300 MHz.

The processor can Turbo up to 3200 MHz and is packaged in a 722-pin micro-PGA socket called FS1 (FS1r2).

The processing cores are kept fed with data by 4 MB of level 2 cache. That’s 512 KB of level 2 cache for each core.  

Unlike AMD’s FX processor line, there is no level 3 cache, but being a Fusion processor, AMD’s A10-4600M comes with an integrated graphics processing unit (iGPU) that runs at a default 497 MHz, with the option to Turbo up to 686 MHz when all the 384 Shaders are subjected to a heavy 3D task.

All of this is done with a maximum heat dissipation of 35 watts and this is exactly what Intel is lacking.

Most of AMD Trinity reviews have compared AMD’s mobile flagship with Intel’s top performing mobile solution right now and that’s the Core i7-3920XM.

It is all good that AMD’s Trinity gets around 50% better results in Blizzard’s Diablo III, but the most important aspect is that AMD’s APU does that at a huge frequency disadvantage when compared with Intel’s CPU, on every side.

The Ivy Bridge mobile part works at a base frequency of 2900 MHz with a turbo option to 3600 MHz. This is a clear frequency advantage for Ivy Bridge of 26% on-base frequency and 12.5% when in Turbo mode.

While AMD’s iGPU has a default frequency of 497 MHz, Intel’s HD4000 starts from 650 MHz and that’s a 31% frequency advantage, but it can turbo up to 1300 MHz, showing a whooping 89% frequency advantage versus AMD’s Turbo mode of only 686 MHz.

Therefore, it’s surprising to see AMD’s Trinity win real life benchmarks with considerable better results despite Intel’s frequency advantage of 31% to 89%.

It’s clear that Intel’s finer manufacturing process of 22 nm has paid off and that their CPUs are able to run at much higher frequencies while consuming acceptable amounts of power.

We’re sure AMD would have raised the frequency of Trinity and would have shown us an Ivy Bridge “killer” if it could, but they are still building Trinity in the same 32 nm manufacturing process they’ve used for Llano, albeit a more mature 32 nm.

Considering the manufacturing process disadvantage, along with the resulting working frequency disadvantage, we can only draw the conclusion that AMD’s Trinity is, in fact, a much more efficient architecture than Intel’s Ivy Bridge.

AMD’s APUs are able to do more while using less power, despite the less advanced manufacturing process.

It is obvious that Dirk Meyer’s bet on more INT and less FPU while hoping for a future GPU-based FPU amelioration was a good idea.

The 17 watts AMD Trinity model that will soon surface will cement AMD’s position as a true mobile competitor for Intel, and this is practically the first time in AMD’s history that they’ve managed to beat Intel at the mobile game.

There was some friction between the companies during the Pentium 4 vs Athlon K8 period, but those were simple cherry picked desktop CPUs and were not a specifically mobile architecture.

During those times, because of Intel’s hot and bad performing Pentium 4 architecture, AMD’s K8 would easily beat the competition at any level – mobile, desktop or server.

Once Intel’s Centrino mobile architecture stepped up in the ring, AMD never had a true mobile competitor.

Now they do have and, surprisingly, Intel has no match. Their i7-3920XM mobile Ivy Bridge consumes a maximum of 55 watts while being likely 400% more expensive.

That’s 57% higher power consumption for likely 400% more money as, we’d like to remind you again, Intel’s Core i7-3920XM sells for more than 1,000 USD (783 EUR).

There is no quad core Ivy Bridge processor in Intel’s mobile line-up that consumes 35 watts, so practically Intel has no real competitor for AMD’s Trinity.


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Comment #1 by: EEEEEE on 20 May 2012, 13:30 UTC reply to this comment

Now all we need is a laptop that has this chip!


Comment #2 by: R0H1T on 20 May 2012, 17:43 UTC reply to this comment

Yay AMD FTW !
But seriously if they don't replicate this success in the desktop arena then we'll have to hear those faildozer rants yet again, I mean seriously WTH if it weren't for their full node advantage at 22nm FinFET's Intel would've been blown apart by AMD in the mid to low tier segments hands down !

Comment #2.1 by: madooo12 on 23 May 2012, 18:17 GMT

Actually 'Faildozer' in its second gen prooved to be more efficient then intel's best efforts
(Ivy Bridge), it has a bit less x86 power but much more graphics power while using less power (electric), it's also made on a 10nm bigger node

the desktop trinity should be successful too, just like llano

AMD seems to have a great chance especially they got 46% of the desktop market thanks to llano


Comment #3 by: madooo12 on 20 May 2012, 22:18 UTC reply to this comment

I wish AMD had used a 28nm process and made 55W chips, that would've been super cool

intel charges 400% more, uses 57% more power and uses a 45.5% smaller node, intel really seems to have a bit worse architecture despite 10 times more employees than AMD, and >50B $

most people thought BD was bad but it turns out it is even better than IVB

with late PD, we'll see what AMD will do


Comment #4 by: razec on 21 May 2012, 04:45 UTC reply to this comment

Top end Intel CPU no match against Trinity is a real face palm for Intel, put a power graphics card to match it's high end moniker (and to beat AMD in graphics) and the price skyrockets further. AMD really did a great job with this platform. Intel is only strong in the high-end/enthusiast segment and weak for the rest


Comment #5 by: Jinxed on 26 May 2012, 05:07 UTC reply to this comment

What's with all these comments saying that Ivy bridge is less efficient than Piledozer? Have any of these people actually looked at the review for the A10-4600M? Most of Intel's dual cores were still coming out on top. As for Intel not having any "match" for AMD's trinity, sure, Intel's integrated graphics performance is definitely lacking, but their CPU performance is certainly not, and they have more than a few GOOD mobile processors that fit under the 35W thermal envelope.
As for AMD's 17w CPU, that's a low power processor that we haven't even seen the benchmarks for. Intel has a few 17w i7's of it's own, and guess who I'd put my money on to bring more performance?
Intel doesn't have any quad core mobile processors with a TDP of >35W, and honestly they don't need any.
AMD has some nice new processors that run cool, decently fast compared to Bulldozer or otherwise, and that delivers good gaming at the low resolutions most laptops paired with this CPU are going to have. That's something that Intel doesn't have...however, Intel is making moves in the right direction to achieve the integrated graphics performance we see from AMD these days. Seeing as there is no need for greater and greater performance in desktop CPU's (outside of the high-end processors used for rendering), I hope Intel will bring something great to the table in their next brand new architecture.

P.S. Why is the 2920XM even mentioned in this article? That's a premium CPU strictly for overclocking on high end laptops and desktop replacements.
On a second note, there is no way AMD could have created a "Ivy bridge killer" just by turning up some clocks, the big reason to buy this processor is for a cheaper laptop that doesn't need the price tag of a dedicated GPU.
Just one last thing before I go, I don't think Piledriver CPUs will be replacing i5s in ultrabooks anytime soon, when most consumers buy an ultrabook, they want something light and that will run fast, not a tiny machine to play games outside of a browser on. As for battery life, Trinity vs. Sandy bridge, on batteries with the same amount of capacity, Sandy bridge came out equal or even above.
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-trinity-review-a10-4600m-a-new-hope


Comment #6 by: baz on 29 May 2012, 14:13 UTC reply to this comment

your trinity battery life link is broken

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