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June 1st, 2012, 01:11 GMT · By

Intel Finally Brings Some Competition for AMD’s Trinity

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Seeing that it stands no chance when competing with quad-core models, Intel has finally decided they need to address the 35W and 17W marks when AMD’s Trinity has proven to be tough to beat.

When it came to anything that involved the iGPU to be put to work, AMD’s Trinity mopped the floor with current Intel Ivy Bridge in Diablo III and in any battery life testing.

With the arrival of Intel’s dual-core 17W TDP CPUs, the situation might change for AMD.

Intel has launched today four 17W CPUs. The i5-3317U is the first of them and it’s not yet available, nor is it priced yet.

The main frequency will be 1700 MHz, but the cores will Turbo up to 2400 MHz when both are needed, or 2600 MHz if only one thread requires the maximum attention.

The HD4000 iGPU is clocked at 350 MHz, but it will Turbo up to 1050 MHz when a 3D application demands more performance.

Here’s AMD’s problem. The Texas-based CPU designer only has a single 17W part in its mobile lineup.

That is a dual-core Trinity with only 256 shaders active, and those run in a frequency range of only 327 MHz to 424 Mhz.

In very specific scenarios, Intel’s HD 4000 running at more than 1 GHz was able to get very close to AMD’s Radeon 7660G.

In AMD’s A6-4455M APU, the iGPU is clocked 35% lower and has 33% less active shaders.

The high frequency and the faster memory might help Intel's iGPU diminish the gap with AMD's lesser APUs.

On the other hand, Intel’s Ivy Bridge maintains the IPC x86 performance advantage and also retains the full frequency of the HD4000 iGPU that's running at the same frequencies as in the quad-core mobile parts.

Intel's Dual Core Ivy Bridge Mobile 17W TDP lineup
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Some might argue that, when a 3D application starts, the Radeon 7620 iGPU will run at 424 MHz.

It’s good, but that won’t bring back those missing 128 shaders. And 424 MHz is definitely not 686 MHz, as the Turbo clock of the Radeon 7620 iGPU is almost 40% lower than with the famous A10-4600M.

The iGPU from AMD’s 17W APU is also working with the slower DDR3-1333 memory instead of the DDR3-1600 memory that A10-4600M is working with.

Intel’s new i5 and i7 Ivy Bridge mobile parts are using the same DDR3-1600 like their quad-core brothers.

Even the CPU Turbo frequency is just 2600 MHz on AMD’s APUs while Intel’s i5-3427U can clock up to 2600MHz in dual-core mode, and even 2800 MHz in single-core operation.

Clock for clock, AMD’s x86 Piledriver cores don’t stand a chance against Intel’s Ivy Bridge.

The only place where AMD has some headroom left is pricing. Despite being built on 32nm manufacturing technology and thus having a bigger die, AMD is not likely to price their APUs at $346 like Intel’s i7-3667U is.

That’s about €278 for a 1,000 unit quantity.

Should we add the fact that the unreleased i7-3517U and the 346 bucks i7-3667U come with a larger 4 MB level 3 cache and that the i5 models come with “just” 3 MB?

As enthusiastic as we’ve all been about AMD’s A10-4600 APUs, we need to see some detailed reviews about AMD’s lesser APU models and see where that stands against Intel’s overpriced dual-core parts.


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Comment #1 by: ColinP on 01 Jun 2012, 06:14 UTC reply to this comment

All the mobile IB chips come with HD4000, even the 17W parts

Comment #1.1 by: Constantin Murariu on 01 Jun 2012, 14:19 GMT

Thank you very much for your input. Lately, Intel's lineup is so confusing! Ever since they've started calling every CPU a "Core i7" no matter if it's dual core, quad or hexa-core, most of their other specifications became even more confusing.

I was writing a single article regarding Intel's new dual core lineup .

I've decided to break it in two as it was becoming too long and I was underlining the fact that the desktop dual core CPUs have much weaker graphics, but the mobile parts, despite having HD 4000 are also weaker on the GPU side.

The dual core mobile parts won't demonstrate the same graphics performance as their quad core brothers.


Comment #2 by: Bill on 25 Jun 2012, 09:15 UTC reply to this comment

This article is acting like ultrathin notebooks can't handle AMD's 25 watt A10-4600M, that's wrong (HP 6z-1000). In every laptop launched, the 17 watt Intel CPU has made the cost much higher than the cost of changing the A6 dual core to an A10-4655M quad core. So the reality is Intel doesn't have any Ivy Bridge within $100 of the A6 budget CPU. These dual core Ivy Bridge CPU's are competing against AMD's A10-4655M in thin laptops. In most cases the A10-4655M beats the Intel competition. And don't even start on the gaming segment.
You can't get a discrete graphics card and Ivy Bridge in any Ultrabook. Because the A10-4655M still has the full number of shaders and is only clocked a 1/6th slower, it still beats HD 4000 running at full speed. So you won't ever get better gaming performance in an ultrathin laptop than the A10-4655M.

Comment #2.1 by: pretty slim poor perform on 22 Nov 2012, 18:35 GMT

and everyone running or wishing for they slim ivy ulvoltage because some peoples are talking like if they gotten ivy real performance in a slim form factor pc... and is acting like ivy poor performance low voltage processor where nearly big real power ivy bridge processors taking advantage of the big brothers legacy over the trinity and it's true i7-3667u cost like 350 but the laptops dealers squeeze the price selling same price processors like i5-3517u and i7-3667u at 200+ difference when uses the same mb and retail price is the same and if you're luky and gods loves u maybe find the best one in a 1800+ laptop. now in real life what everyone should hear bcause true amd not go as far as intel, maybe, but can handle anything above normal use could be without stress (flac music, 1080p, cad, photosp and all those things) & in graphics hd 4000 has nothing to do even whit the llano's amd graphics. maybe a 640m pair them but that in ultrabook for usually price (800 more or less) it's a "bussinessmans" joke, in 2013 gonna happen but if consumers don't ask for what they pay that not going any below 2500+ (& note's like the above just helping that in some way) from the real 800 or thousand that real cost is even whit them strategic gain+tax extra tax & extra tax could be...

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