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December 4th, 2008, 08:22 GMT · By Andrei Dobra
Grand Theft Auto IV PC Version Is Filled with Bugs |
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Grand Theft Auto is probably the most popular sandbox shooter series out there. It has won over millions of fans across the world with its innovative gameplay and hilarious story, and has made Rockstar, its developer, one of the most respected companies in the industry.
Although the franchise has never been a stranger to controversy and accusations, like the fact that it is corrupting young people or teaching them how to be violent, it has always delivered a great gaming experience to fans. That is, up until now, as the PC version of the latest installment in the series, Grand Theft Auto IV, has quite a lot of annoying bugs. Although the controversy surrounding this game started a few days ago, as Rockstar announced that it would employ the infamous SecuROM DRM (Digital Rights Management) system in order to protect its game against piracy, many users wouldn't have minded such a thing. But now, players are assaulting various GTA forums where they accuse the company of shipping a faulty game, as a lot of bugs and crashes occur almost anytime they want to play it. Numerous error codes and glitchy graphics have gotten users very irritated. Also, the fact that the game doesn't have support for two graphic boards running in an SLI configuration has forced gamers to resell or take back their copies to the stores from which they bought them. Steam, the online digital content distribution service that also offers GTA IV in the form of a direct download, is now offering a refund for angry users who have had enough of the problematic game. Another very annoying issue is the fact that users who own above average PCs are forced to play the game at low setting because of the horrible frame rate. Rockstar replied to these claims by saying that the "higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available." Although these problems are very irritating, Rockstar has issued only a brief statement, in which it says that the development team is working on solutions to these problems, but gamers need to be patient. Until a patch can be resolved, the company has also released a document that sums up the various error codes that appear after the game crashes, which can be found here. Let's just hope that Rockstar will release a patch as soon as possible, because a lot of PC gamers have waited for this title and it would really be a shame if this problematic experience was the way they would remember it.
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| Comment #1 by: Kenneth on 04 Dec 2008, 11:11 UTC | reply to this comment | I've been waiting for this title for a long time. With GTA 3, GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas i've bought a Playstation 2, just to play these games. Each time I bought a new PS2, then sold it again later. With GTA IV I bought an XBOX 360, then sold it again, because I thougth the console was a PoS. Which have had me waiting with eager for the PC version!
I've never felt more disappointed in my life (that would be a good thing) but this does it.
How could Rockstar say:
"higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available."
That sounds to me, like a very bad excuse for a really poor optimized graphics engine.
Even with details and screen resolutions lower than the XBOX 360, the game is running with really poor framerates and the game speed lags and hangs.
And that is even though my PC's graphics performance would kick the XBOX 360's ass, big time...
The graphics details just don't justify how this game performs on even top of the line, high end PC's.
If there is no patch within the next week, I will return this game to the store as well. |
| Comment #1.1 by: Dolbert on 27 Mar 2011, 04:43 GMT | I returned mine today as it is STILL buggy, cannot get it patched properly and geeting booted, graphics errors etc.etc ... |
| Comment #2 by: ChR on 04 Dec 2008, 12:34 UTC | reply to this comment | Thanks a lot Rockstar. Can't you****ing port a game right? Especially such a major title???
We Pc gamers ALL DEMAND a patch to fix the frame instabilities, the crashes, and the bugs/glitches, at least most of them. But mostly the frames per second problem.
I mean, COME ON, you say the recommended system would be one with a Q6600, a 8600GT and 2.5 GB of Ram, yet such a system can barely run the game OK on MEDIUM settings.
You used to be my most respected brand, yet I'm having second thoughts about bying your game now... |
| Comment #3 by: Daniel King on 05 Dec 2008, 15:50 UTC | reply to this comment | "We are aware that a small number of fans are having problems running GTA IV on their PCs"
Are they serious? These guys are becoming politicians. When will people accept their responsibilities. The game runs like utter crap on even the newest PCs. I have the PS3 version, but still went out and purchased the PC version. My PC is a few months old and can be considered "high spec". Even on the lowest settings, the best FPS I get is 17. I cannot log into the social network and windows live crashes every time I try to log in, which means I cannot save any progress even if I wanted to play the game. I have spent days trying to resolve the problems. This is a complete waste of time of the game was released too early. I opened a trouble ticket with 2K Games and the poor support engineer told me they are overwhelmed with GTA IV PC customer problems. |
| Comment #4 by: Keeroy on 05 Dec 2008, 18:38 UTC | reply to this comment | Shame on Rockstar. I feel sorry for you, Kenneth... |
| Comment #5 by: steven on 05 Dec 2008, 20:26 UTC | reply to this comment | Along with the dodgy frame rate and crashes i've also discovered another oversite with gta4, you can not calibrate any controller besides mouse, keyboard or xbox controller. games like mafia and gta3 i quite liked to play the driving bits with my wheel, surely the point of pc games as opposed to the console ones is that you have greater flexibility in how you play games. i also don't buy rockstar's excuse of bad frame rate. i have a quad core cpu, 8800gts card and 2gb of ram and this is the first game i've played that has poor frame rate. smacks of lazy coding to me! |
| Comment #6 by: Brian on 06 Dec 2008, 00:27 UTC | reply to this comment | I can play Crysis fine on high settings, but this piece of garbage is a slideshow (5 fps in the benchmark) even on LOW settings.
And it's not that the framerate is bad... it's actually quite smooth... but the whole thing FREEZES every few seconds.
Even on the map screen (ie no 3d graphics), just trying to drag the mouse in a circle, it completely halts all the time.
I read on Slashdot this is due to their retarded copy protection scheme, which has to keep decrypting game content all the time. I purchased the game on Steam but may go looking for a crack or pirated copy... apparently they run better. WTFG Rockstar. |
| Comment #7 by: Hudso on 06 Dec 2008, 00:31 UTC | reply to this comment | Wow... Been waiting quite a long time for the PC version, and what do we get? Crap. In a box. The thing that really gets to me, as they said in comment #2, is that rockstar won't claim fault for these issues. I get 5% into the game, and the checkerboard effect comes up. What is this s***?!?
By the way, I'd appreciate if someone let me know if/when the patch comes out... |
| Comment #8 by: aZz on 06 Dec 2008, 04:25 UTC | reply to this comment | Having shelled out for a game that doesnt even get past the loading screen i feel ripped of to the max.My system more that doubles the requiremnets to play and after updating graphics drivers and windows trying all the tricks game still wont freakin load.iv never bought a game i couldnt play and my machine runs all the latest game.Very pissed off Rockstar :( |
| Comment #9 by: Renton on 06 Dec 2008, 16:54 UTC | reply to this comment | It's really insultant the "Memory Limit". That restriction has no purposes in PC Gaming NEVER!
In a console when you lack of VRAM you are done, but in the PC the system RAM came to the rescue!
Why the hell i'm have 4 Gigs of DDR3 if they limit to my 512MB of VRAM?!??!!? |
| Comment #10 by: michael on 06 Dec 2008, 21:53 UTC | reply to this comment | Come on Rockstar! I bought me a new laptop that perfectly is suppose to run your game! Yet I have to run your game on medium/low graphical settings!! My laptop is brand new!!! up to date technology! 4 GB of RAM and im driving my car all choppy! Lets just say I got my money back i went to best buy and i told them how sorry your game was! and I got my money back that's for sure! my 50.00 !!!! |
| Comment #11 by: cyber1985 on 07 Dec 2008, 21:18 UTC | reply to this comment | I only got the game a couple of hours ago and all ready i am sick of it. I have a realy high end machine and this game just will not run smooth no matter what i tryed the game will be going back to shop get it sorted rockstarters !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Comment #12 by: Uber on 08 Dec 2008, 10:22 UTC | reply to this comment | Im Having the Same Prob it Seem to me that the Game runs better when i turn the Graphics all the way up lol but still laggy and crappy i have a top of the line PC i play Crysis/Fallout3/Farcry2 all Maxed out
and i get 15 fps in GTA IV and it dose not have half the Graphics as some of my other games
In all of my Gaming years this is 1 of the Biggest Disappointments
it i such a well known major title Game and they Didn't even Optimize it How ROOD these Game company's are getting lazyer and Lazyer Every Year or they are j7ust Getting Cheaper |
| Comment #13 by: Johnny on the spot on 08 Dec 2008, 19:22 UTC | reply to this comment | I have not bought this game yet but after reading all of these comments I will not being puchasing a copy anytime soon.
To their credit I do expect Rockstar to fix all of the problems very soon, this game is their cash cow and I am sure they are worried about having their rep tarnished. |
| Comment #14 by: CheddarJeeves on 09 Dec 2008, 03:10 UTC | reply to this comment | 10 seconds is the most I can play this game because the memory leak is sooo great that it stops formulating textures, now I'm driving in the sky with light poles...also, progressively, the strobing of the frame rate is sooo funky I feel like I'm at a rave...then a reality box comes up and says 'turn GTA IV off, your memory is gone', and this is just the memory leak...Now let me tell you how this game wont let me make ANY (none, zero, not gonna do it, nada) adjustments to graphics...Oh! did I mention the part where the entire scenery of the game rocks back and forth in a figure 8 motion like your in a freakin row boat?...oh yes, it's enough to make you sick. |
| Comment #15 by: niahseng on 10 Dec 2008, 17:10 UTC | reply to this comment | This game crashes to the Desktop with an error message saying GTAIV has encountered a problem and needs to close everytime when it reaches to the Grand Theft Auto IV logo screen.... |
| Comment #16 by: LeeNova on 10 Dec 2008, 20:26 UTC | reply to this comment | I paid $500 for this game. WHAT?!?!? $500?!?! Yes. I bought an XBox 360 when GTA IV came out - I couldn't wait for the PC version. But the weird controller made me miserable. Drive with a joystick and use another joystick to keep the camera pointed forwards??? The unfamiliar controls made me dislike the game and I didn't want that. So I decided to wait for the PC version. Well, I bought it on Dec. 2nd but my ATI video card wasn't DirectX 9. So I bought a video card. Finally - I could play!
AND IT SUCKED BAD!!!
Right off the start I knew I was screwed. The opening scene where Nico arrives on the ship - THE SHIP WAS INVISIBLE! Everyone was just floating around in the air. Then Roman drives up and HIS CAR HAD INVISIBLE WHEELS! WTF?!?!?!?
The roads were invisible so I had to watch my GPS just to get to the apartment.
To make matters worse, in the custom keyboard config menu, I couldn't select left mouse button to walk forward and right mouse button to walk backwards. Meaning I couldn't play the game the way I played and loved it in GTA III, GTA VC and GTA SA.
This isn't Grand Theft Auto. It is a totally different game with a different feel that is calling itself Grand Theft Auto.
$300 XBox 360
$ 80 Grand Theft Auto IV Special Edition for XBox 360
$ 55 Grand Theft Auto IV for PC
$ 60 New Video card (ATI HD 2600 Pro with 512 MB) from eBay
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$495 plus tax
for what?
For a big let down.
Too bad RockStar - you should have left GTA as GTA instead of creating a new, buggy game that sort of looks like GTA. |
| Comment #17 by: El Soli on 11 Dec 2008, 17:09 UTC | reply to this comment | No, LeeNova, you only paid 135$ for GTA IV. The fact that you had outdated hardware isn't R*'s fault, neither that you are unable to use a controller...
And since GTA IV worked fine - according to your story - on the 360, you only paid $55. Like everybody else...
If you want to nag about something, how about the fact that we Europeans have to cough up the money for games instead of you? We pay 50 euro's instead of only 55 dollars.... |
| Comment #17.1 by: LeeNova on 12 Dec 2008, 14:30 GMT | No El Soli - I paid $500. Everything I spent was spent to experience GTA IV in a way that would be as enjoyable as my GTA III, VC and SA experiences.
Everything I spent was my choice. All I am upset about is the buggy PC version.
Please check your math again. |
| Comment #18 by: MammoN on 11 Dec 2008, 19:02 UTC | reply to this comment | I have a Nvidia GTX 260 and a intel Q6600 and thought that I would be able to run GTA IV on high just like far cry 2, fallout 3 , crysis etc... But to my amazement the game was lagging whenever im driving around.
I moved all the graphics settings to low....
AND IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME
i mean what the hell? the new patch notes say that resource usage will be better managed so that should sort out some of the lag issues... i hope.... but until then il just carry on playing other games.
Although disappointing, i still have my faith in Rockstar games that they wil fix up GTA IV ! It has the potential for a great game... |
| Comment #19 by: Loko on 12 Dec 2008, 09:21 UTC | reply to this comment | i bought this game two days ago, and im so F---in dissapointed, i can play crysis and asassins creed but lag on GTA what the hell! With 2.4 Quad Core, GTX 624mb 8800 and 2gb ram i can play everyhting but lag on LOWEST settings on GTA, most shops in the UK dont take PC games anymore due to securicom and all that crap. Took me 2 hours to instal update sign in instal again all of their god dam crap just to be super pissed... |
| Comment #20 by: Jim on 13 Dec 2008, 01:42 UTC | reply to this comment | My specs are
2.43 Ghz Intel 2 Core Duo
4 GB ddr RAM
7200 RPM HDD
Running Windows Vista 64-bit
This game lags on Low settings. Though it's playable, it would be much nicer if I could play this game with the graphics looking like Fallout 3 which I can run on High smoothly on my computer, instead I have to deal with short view distances and * texture and rendering qualities. |
| Comment #21 by: Alex8642 on 13 Dec 2008, 05:12 UTC | reply to this comment | Either LeeNova knows nothing about computers or hes just a cheap idiot cuz I would never buy a crappy $60 card to play a game we know is going to be very demanding! PLUS Glitches. Looking at games like farcry and crysis.... you cannot compare them to GTA IV. they use entirely different engines to run the games. plus they are FPS'. GTA IV is a truly open-world game that requires massive amounts of texture memory and cpu power just to pump out a few cars, people, and scenery... In games like farcry and crysis you don't need so many calculations and textures as most of the scenery is made of the same textures and much less cars and people. You could also point out that GTA IV's shadow shader will kill your gpu as compared to fc2 (DUNIA) and crysis (cryengine2). The sheer amount of calculations in an environment that complex to get those shadows and reflections on your car... whoa! You really cannot compare them. But hey! Why complain? Maybe the patch will optimize the crappy port from the x-box and just maybe the game will be more playable. In the mean time start learning how the #%$% a game is made. it IS hard work. (BTW GTA IV has an epic physics engine (EUPHORIA that kills DUNIA & CRYENGINE2) |
| Comment #22 by: Vivid. on 13 Dec 2008, 17:49 UTC | reply to this comment | God! Am i so glad to hear of other people with same issue.
I am using a Mac Pro on Bootcamp XP with 8gb of ram, Quad core 2.66ghz, ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB & i thought it was just my machine being a mac that the game was soo crap! I can play COD 4 & 5 no issues, all other games at full res no problems, but this! All on low, and still crap as hell! What is it with the memory limit? Is this the graphics card or machine? as mu limit is 418mb which makes no sense what so ever! Glad other people are having same issues,
Rockstar had better sort it out or im going to be mightly annoyed! |
| Comment #23 by: RAVI on 17 Dec 2008, 12:38 UTC | reply to this comment | I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR LONG TO BUY THIS GAME BU T AFTER I BOUGHT IT IWAS DISSAPOINTED BECAUSE WHENEVER I PLAY THE GAME THE SCREEN CRASHES ALMOST EVERYTHING DISSAPEARS EXCEPT THE PLAYER AND THE CAR EVEN ON HIGH CONFIGURATION |
| Comment #24 by: FckSake on 17 Dec 2008, 23:52 UTC | reply to this comment | I get 12 fps on Benchmark with:
e4300 Core 2 Duo
ATI 4850
2 GB Ram
Vista
And it's unplayable due to really bad textures and corruption of graphics. My system is fine though, plays Farcry 2, HL2, TF2,Crysis on high perfectly. |
| Comment #25 by: ScrewR* on 20 Dec 2008, 03:13 UTC | reply to this comment | I bought this game two days ago and I have STILL yet to be able to even get rockstar's social club to even work everytime I start it I'm informed that it has generated an exception that cannot be handled. WTF? So I install the 1.1 patch for it and now it won't even start! I'm to the point now that I would love to be able to even crash at the loading screen, but insted i've been trying for days now just to even get to the loading screen. |
| Comment #26 by: apple on 20 Dec 2008, 17:28 UTC | reply to this comment | Simple answer, boycott everything with securom, every game i've bought that uses it has been crap. Not to mention cracked versions of those games become available within hours of shipping. Securom fails completely. |
| Comment #27 by: Hellfires on 20 Dec 2008, 17:42 UTC | reply to this comment | My Pc Specs:
Q6600 overclocked to 3.2 GHz
XFX Geforce GTX 260 Black Edition 896 MB.
2 GB Dominator 1066Hz RAM.
I couldnt and wouldnt play more than 2 minutes of this S@#@$@ Game. FFS are they kidding or what. Crysis is supposed to be the game with the best graphics and highest requirements to date. But this piece of crap with s@$$ graphics can't give more than 20 FPS. GG Rockstar and whoever else was involved in this game. rip offs! |
| Comment #28 by: John Maguire on 21 Dec 2008, 22:32 UTC | reply to this comment | I have bought all the GTA titles before but will never buy a Rockstar game of any type again. After managing to wade through their copyright protection which is a joke to start with - you end up with a game which crashes over and over again - who would want to pirate such a pile of crap. Rockstar have a cheek and their patch has actually made it worse! I hope this fiasco finishes this company off - which is what they deserve for ripping of their customers. |
| Comment #29 by: BullSh1t on 23 Dec 2008, 23:41 UTC | reply to this comment | Athlon Dual Core 5000+ @ 2,6 GHz
MSI GTX 280 Super OC
3GB DDR2 RAM
Vista
This setup could barely run it playable and only a short moments of the time in all low settings. The processor is running almost 100% while playing and as expected very laggy and jerky.
Time to upgrade the processor I know, but I think I'll wait a proper patch to this sad excuse of a console port first.
I agree. This is a rip-off! |
| Comment #30 by: Ray on 24 Dec 2008, 05:01 UTC | reply to this comment | I brought this game for 1/2 price of EBAY. I have a Intel quad core with the latest nvidia gtx280. After MAJOR installation issues (i have NEVER experienced such a problematic install) I finally managed to get the game running. I felt like i was playing a crappy console game. The controls are clunky at best. The views are awkward. For the graphic detail the frame rates are crap. This game feels like they just ported it across from xbox and used a junior programmer to fix all the issues. Its absolutely pathetic. Its obvious Rockstar does not care about the PC market. Do yourself a favor and DO NOT buy this title UNLESS they fix it first. Dont take my word for it, read other forums if you need convincing. Even though I paid 1/2 price I still feel ripped off. Absolute crap Rockstar. You should feel ashamed. I will never buy a Rockstar title again UNLESS they can either fix this crap or compensate some how for this release. They wont even acknowledge that the game has serious issues... |
| Comment #31 by: Hadez on 25 Dec 2008, 21:29 UTC | reply to this comment | Game runs allmost perfectly on medium texture details 50 everything (35view distance), no shadow density BUT after 20 minutes of playing tits unplayable because of memory leak...
my specs: amd athlon 5200+ (overclocked in bios to 2.7ghz)
ati radeon x1950 512mb
3gb ddr2 800mhz RAM |
| Comment #32 by: Peekster on 27 Dec 2008, 01:00 UTC | reply to this comment | Man, I tell ya.....what a sham....Been waiting and waiting and finally received it as a gift as I new I would. I am really having no problems, except I am not able to use my Logitech controller to play. I really do not feel I need to search the web to find out why but I did anyway. Without emulators or an X-box controller, guess I have to use the keyboard and mouse, Sure Right, that will happen. So easy to drive that way. And what the heck is up with having to log into the Social Club and having a Windows live account to save the game. I do not care about multi-player at all. I just want to play a single campaign and have fun doing that. But I can't....I have to save through Window Live....once again Sure Right.....don't care if it is an open package, going back to the store. Circuit City can complain to Rockstar about these issues that are not listed on the box. If I knew this before, I would have never asked for it.....Guess I am playing re-runs of SA until Rockstar puts out an updated version.... |
| Comment #33 by: Jason on 27 Dec 2008, 10:03 UTC | reply to this comment | I have never encountered such a buggy game before. Install takes an awful long time with all of the nonsense additions required to run the game. I was never able to log into Windows Live to save my progress. Game crashed about 5 times in the 2 hours I played it. Absolutely pathetic. Don't even consider purchasing this game until MASSIVE improvements are made.
Running on:
AMD Dual Core Athlon 6000+ 3 GHz
Nvidia 8800 GTS
4 GBs RAM |
| Comment #34 by: Jason on 29 Dec 2008, 02:01 UTC | reply to this comment | Not really a gaming console...
HP Slimline with Intel Core 2 Duo 2.6GHz
2GB RAM
nVidia 9300GE 256MB Video
but after all of the Social Club / Windows Live junk, got it working. Have played 25% of the game, have lost the road texture only 3 times for no more than one minute, all of the graphics are at their lowest setting, the cut scenes aren't synched with sound (about 1 second off), I get the odd freeze for up to 3 seconds, and the movement is always jerky - but I have to say I am actually pleased, after hearing about what other players have had happen to them with superior systems.
I can actually play the game without smashing the screen in disgust, and an enjoying this game - I feel a bit guilty that I can play when others can't.
But I have to agree, this title cost $80 AUD on special and it is a slow, jerky and frustrating title. Every other release has been great, I've got the entire series spread across PC / X Box / PS2 and I am disappointed.
My wife couldn't understand why I couldn't just sign up online and then get going, as the box says that online access is needed to activate the game. It never says anything about continued access, signing up for Windows Live and whatever else I've been forced to do.
I seem to have the most basic system here and I can play it and access it without major issues - does this make any sense to anyone at all?
PS - Why did I lose my Desktop Background and have it turn to black as soon as I installed the game - that's my background! |
| Comment #35 by: uncleSAM on 30 Dec 2008, 04:36 UTC | reply to this comment | I too have a very decent computer = intel pentium d 3.20ghz, 4 gb ddr3, HD 4550 2.0 512 mb and vista ultimate 64 bit and once again yes on low settings horrible lag/fps! thanks for the one christmas present i couldnt wait to open and play! thanks rockstar |
| Comment #36 by: arghhh on 31 Dec 2008, 06:31 UTC | reply to this comment | Damn this game.
Avarage framerate with low settings is 30. And game has annoying lag if driving car >_>
And my specs are:
-AMD Athlon 64 5000+ (overclocked to 3GHz)
-nVidia GF 9600GT 512M
-2GB RAM
So it should work fine... >:( |
| Comment #37 by: F**K R* on 31 Dec 2008, 13:30 UTC | reply to this comment | Biggest dissapointment i have ever had
Took hours to install
Then all i get is an error code (which, rather unhelpfully only gave me a number, didn't even say what the problem was)
After i lot of searching i find out i need Xp sp3.
After i get that i have to trawl through a messed up activation, saving, online account, release date system only to find that the game is unplayable, on all settings, even the very lowest. Most of the streets and buildings are invisable, leaving lamposts and wheely bins floating in mid air
Shaders are messed up, trees and roads (when they appear) are just a
bunch of scattered dots, and the frame rates appalling.
I have a very modern quad-core pc, which runs farcry2 and bioshock on max graphics without a single flaw
No matter how high spec your pc is GTA4 will run like crap- becuase GTA4 has been coded like crap, a massive waste of time, money and effort.
Anyone thinking of purchasing GTA4 should avoid it at all costs- until rockstar have made a whole new un-buggy version. |
| Comment #38 by: Jacques on 03 Jan 2009, 08:37 UTC | reply to this comment | I installed the game on xp service pack3 took a while but got it installed no problem played the game a little crashed after about 30 min then got drivers for nvidea 180.84 ( frame per second 25 on medium settings)played the game and let it run on its own got about 3 hours out before it crashed.
Amd 5600+duel
4gig ram
250 gig hdrive
8800gts 640mb
Then tried to instal it on Vista what a disater the dvd just freezes during instalation and i have to reboot the system. |
| Comment #39 by: Joey on 07 Jan 2009, 10:39 UTC | reply to this comment | I got this for the PC seen I didn't own PS3 and Xbox 360 , want a waste of $50 , it took me 8 hours straight to finally get ready to play the game , and just like that nothing but more problems the frame right was so slow there was no way I could play it . So I download the driver update another 2 hours later it was finally down and as soon as I had opened it the file was bad and couldn't use it . I'am taking the game back later today and I will NEVER BY ANOTHER GAME FROM ROCKSTAR AGAIN!!!!! |
| Comment #40 by: Jason on 09 Jan 2009, 01:50 UTC | reply to this comment | I have gone back to playing San Andreas after getting tired of how slow this game is. My new system makes SA fly, and I'm about half way through. I forgot how fun this game was, and on the highest settings is still basic compared to GTAIV but who cares? I might go back to IV when I could be bothered. I have wanted this game for over a year now and I don't even play it, what a disappointment. |
| Comment #41 by: John on 09 Jan 2009, 03:11 UTC | reply to this comment | Wierd! Why is it that I don't have a great system, but the game runs ok? No crashes after many hours of play. Here's the benchmark results...
Statistics
Average FPS: 23.04
Duration: 37.54 sec
CPU Usage: 92%
System memory usage: 72%
Video memory usage: 94%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (59 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Render Quality: High
View Distance: 25
Detail Distance: 37
Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT
Video Driver version: 175.16
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
File ID: benchmark.cli |
| Comment #42 by: mcbaardaap on 09 Jan 2009, 07:00 UTC | reply to this comment | this game got me back to downloading games for free .
spend 50 euros for the game , heavy framerate problems
spend 75 euros more for a geforce 9500 gt
game still has major framerate problems ,
when i check the minimum system requirements , im well in green
what the hell is wrong with my life i ask myself ,
that i can get so pissed off because if this , while somewhere else
people are starving because they have no money for food
i dont know , but im still pissed off
and when i try to play gta 4 to loose some temper
i see the framerate sucks , so i get more pissed off
im in a circle here , and only rockstar can help me if they ever make a second freaking patch , if they dont make it really soon
im gonna do some real life gta to their main office !
;) |
| Comment #43 by: formergtafan on 10 Jan 2009, 09:45 UTC | reply to this comment | I can't believe I actually bought such a bad port. The other titles were quite playable and fun on the PC on release day.
But this is a pile of mess.
I'll just suck it up but Rockstar won't be getting a dollar more from me in the future. And they added SecuROM to make things worse. |
| Comment #44 by: Mike on 10 Jan 2009, 23:57 UTC | reply to this comment | if you wasted your money thats your fault, I personally havdon't really have any issues with the game,
Amd Athlon 64 X2 5400 Black Edition
4gb OCZ Reaper HPC Memory
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Gamer
Nvidia 8600GT XXX 512mb
Driver Version 178.24
MSI K9A2 Platinum
the best way to keep game smooth is shadowing, if you have a video card with less than 512mb v-ram keep shadowing below 10
this game will play on less my previous cpu was Athlon 64 X2 4000, but with my same specs
but regardless I have no issue playing this game at all, i can alt/tab out of the game do other stuff, come back and continue gaming,
This Game will not work correctly on a video card with less than 512mb vram, notice in graphics settings you see at the bottom Resources and a number, that number is relative to your video ram, it will never be exact due to your desktop staying resident in parts of your local Vram. IE an 8600gt with 256mb ram wont play above 800x600 in vista but one with 512mb can reach 1280x1024 |
| Comment #45 by: stonedcrysis on 14 Jan 2009, 09:32 UTC | reply to this comment | i can only play game at 800 x 600 which is playable but sucks my specs are
amd phenom x3 2.10ghz
8gb crucial ram
nvidia 9500 gt
windows vista 64
this system runs crysis fallout 3 and cod 4 with no problems at 1280x 1024 this surely must be the worst port ever to grace the pc
cmon rockstar sort your loyal fans
and i have instaled the npatch and i think the patch needs a patch |
| Comment #46 by: Minion06 on 26 Jan 2009, 09:55 UTC | reply to this comment | Well Rockstar released another patch and yet another phail. I am so tired of Rockstar I can puke. I bought this game back on dec 3rd. I waited this long for a f**king patch that would fix this piece of crap. Still nothing, Even on the lowest settings possible I am still lagging like hell. This after the second GTA IV patch. These are my specs in case anybody is curious.
AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+ 3.0Ghz
4GB of Ram 800Mhz
Nvidia Geforce 9500GT 512MB
Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit (Service Pack 1)
I am not at the required system specs, but I am sure the hell not at the minimum either. I am tired of waiting for these idiots to do something about this. First thing tomorrow this piece of crap is going on Ebay. Let someone else deal with this crap. Hope they can run it better then what I can. For anyone who is thinking about buying this game DO NOT!!! unless you have some ungodly super computer that can run better then the PC's at NASA it is not worth it. Here is what I have to say to you Rockstar. I will never EVER!! buy another game from you again. I hope your company falls off the face of the planet you scum. |
| Comment #47 by: thelastdan on 27 Jan 2009, 00:26 UTC | reply to this comment | Man i'm sorry rockstar but i have to add a comment too. First, love rockstar games... all masterpieces, GTA's, manhunt, etc.
I know some people say they have quad cores when gta does not support it. but with a high end duel core ( amd 64x 6000+ 3.01 ghz) 4 gigs of ram (800 mhz)( running xp 64x) my new DDR5 1 Gb 4870, 800W PSU , this is rediculous, FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT. I'm glad that i don't have the drunk world effect, or that "most" of the textures load quickly enough to react, or that my controller is not interfering with gameplay ( i can actually simultaneously play on both controller and keyboard) but choppy as hell, really choppy, especially in the car. Rockstar comon what future generation of pc, do you know how long it takes for people to buy hardware, it aint cheap, i shelled out close to 3000 big ones on just tower components ( never mind the laser mouse ,keyboard or the display). And that's just me and (relatively) few others who are willing to spend that much on gaming pc's. I'm not even going to list the new games that i run FLAWLESSLY on highest specs. I'm not exagereating because i have nothing to lose, i don't need to show off, noone knows me here, and my pc is not the very best, but it is optimized maximally for gaming. |
| Comment #47.1 by: Jason on 29 Jan 2009, 02:08 GMT | Anyone else notice that the second patch did nothing to improve the game or gameplay? |
| Comment #48 by: zodalpha1 on 11 Feb 2009, 04:01 UTC | reply to this comment | Agreed on the graphics power i just got a nvidia 260 and it is almost at full potential, on top of this, a new patch was released, when teh patch was release but Logitech rumblepad will no longer work, i have to use -directinput, here is the problem though, i have to launch the game 2-3 times before the joystick owkrs! very irritating! |
| Comment #48.1 by: yin on 18 Feb 2009, 13:23 GMT | thank god im not the only one being frustrated about not getting this crap game to run smoothly... even more glad it doesnt only effects the PC version since Rockstar just ported to game to pc in a crappy way.... though i feel sorry for everyone who actually bought this game...
i burned the game cuz i already had my doubts about the gameplay en storyline... and most of all since Rockstar decided to concentrate on nooby console market all of a sudden and were about to port this game to pc something that really becomes clear when playing it.... just like call of duty World At war the game is NOT suited for playing with a keyboard + mouse combination..
I have good pc specs (e.g. E6600 core2duo, Nvidia 8800GTX 768mb, kingston ddr2 4GB RAM) but the game is only playable at med settings (unlike the legal versions of the game that most of you have installed ;) )
also the patch creates more problems than it solves. So ur advised NOT to install it until rockstar fixes the bug that are being created by the so called "patch"... |
| Comment #49 by: Johnny Gonzalez on 20 Feb 2009, 01:15 UTC | reply to this comment | I have all the GTA collection so far and tell you what, out of all of them, this Version is a total crap when it comes to hardware handling. My specs: AMD 64 Phenom Quad core @ 2.2 ghz, 4 gig DDR2, 2 Nvidia 9500 gt with 1gig ram onboard in SLi mode enabled,, Mobo ASUS Crosshair Gamers board, XP 32bit version SP3. The Game loads but as soon as it swithches to the scene where you go inside your car after leaving the boat sequence, crashed or hangs the PC. Sound shutters and distorts some times. I updated both game and hardware drivers to see if it fixed. Nothing as a result. Same problems over and over. Even in benchmark mode, game hangs in the motorcycle scene 2 mins after. Rockstar this is a big mistake you have ever pulled out of your sleeves. I dont't say I will never buy a game from you guys, but please address bugs 1st before releasing your stuff to the general public... |
| Comment #50 by: AcE on 16 Mar 2009, 13:26 UTC | reply to this comment | Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @ 2.33Ghz
2GB DDR2 800Mhz Ram
Windows XP SP3
Forsa Geforce 9600GT OC
Runs @ 24 - 34fps the for an hour before it starts stuttering and freezing... -.- |
| Comment #51 by: Chris on 16 Apr 2009, 16:24 UTC | reply to this comment | I can't believe how much this game requires to play properly O_o... I can run it on Very High on most things with Medium on the shadow quality, and it doesn't let me put view distance higher than 20...crazy.
The thing that annoys me the most is that the game keeps on crashing for no reason, I have the latest drivers installed, all perfectly good hardware, fresh install of windows, and a genuine game.. but the game keeps freezing up completely and won't even let me minimize after roughly 3/4 hour play. Also, when I had this running on XP every second or so I get an annoying sound coming through the speakers, sort of like white noise >_>.
System:
Intel Q6600 2.4Ghz Core2Quad
8GB DDR2 800mhz Ram
2x 160Gb HDD ( Raid 0 )
nVidia GTX 275 896mb GDDR3
Vista Ultimate x64 |
| Comment #52 by: kriss on 16 Apr 2009, 20:21 UTC | reply to this comment | i cant even get it to run, and my pc more than well meet the minimum specs, crysis and fallout 3 run like a dream but this is not good how can they sell a game that is not ready |
| Comment #53 by: adriel on 01 May 2009, 03:57 UTC | reply to this comment | This is pathetic. so many comments. 99% Negative. Its not easy to get a whole list of negative comments u know... rockstar.
i freakin tried so many things
1.updated windows, patched gta, downloaded the .net framework thing.
2.downloaded the driver that R* claimed to work best for my nvidia card. 3.defraged my pc,
4.used the -nomemrestrict and what not.
5.tried the 800 x 600 display solution found on some forums and subsequently change the resolution using -width and -height.
6.change my video card fan speed
7.open my cpu casing and bought a fan to blow directly at my video card in case it was too hot.
8.disabled all my firewall, antivirus, msn.
9.optimized the virtual memory
10. continously finding fixes from forums like this...
AND THEY ALL DON'T WORK.
All i get is graphic glitches, memory leaks, black screens, and even blue screens. This is juz so screwed up.
All i want is to be able to play the game.. and the game i get to play is to hard reset my cpu. |
| Comment #54 by: stephen on 07 May 2009, 23:13 UTC | reply to this comment | I am just another un-happy customer with gta4, Tried everything and can't play this "slow motion game" I am sure that you will never read this rockstar because you will have too many complaints to get through, oh well, you got my money this time but won't get another penny again, Thats right, I am a customer, I must be a drip, well there is an old saying, a drip does not think it is responsible for a flood, sounds like a flood of unhappy customers out there, who won't forget, you better get this fixed soon and don't tell me you didn't know this was going to happen, if you didn't then maybe it's time to give up writing code for games? Bad news rockstar. |
| Comment #55 by: dion on 24 Jun 2009, 14:55 UTC | reply to this comment | i play age of conan everything maxed, and i can't get fps out of this game wtf? this game FAILS do not buy it |
| Comment #56 by: Nathaniel Harvey on 13 Jul 2009, 22:56 UTC | reply to this comment | I have GTA IV and cannot even get to loading screen. i get "this program has encountered a problem and needs to close." almost immediately after double-clicking either game icon in start menu and desktop (normal and safe mode) |
| Comment #57 by: Fred on 19 Aug 2009, 10:39 UTC | reply to this comment | My specs:
Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @ 2.44ghz
6GB DDR2 RAM
Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512mb
Win7 Ultimate X64
Even with the lowest settings (which looks so bad its like the first Doom game) it hangs every 6 seconds or so, making it really choppy.
The weird thing is, a few months ago I was running Vista 64 (same specs) and it wasnt choppy. THe graphics were still crap, as my settings were on medium. But now settings are low, and still its choppy.
This game is awful. And 8 months on, still no fix??? Unbelievable. |
| Comment #58 by: Mark on 23 Aug 2009, 05:04 UTC | reply to this comment | Mine
AMD Phenom II x4 3.2ghz
8 gb ddr2
EVGA GTX 285 ssc
Windows 7 x64
Even with everything turned all the way down it runs like garbage! How can they make and sell something that today's pc's cannot even run?! The game technically works but you just crash into walls due to the MAJOR stutter every few seconds. It mentions the specs you need to play this game but a system like that would probably blow apart trying to play this! Thats great they want to make games for the new systems that have yet to even be created, but what the hell are they thinking making and selling a game and not even realize that no one has a pc brought from the future by marty mcfly. This is crap and I either want my money back or a friggin download to fix it. |
| Comment #59 by: Mark on 23 Aug 2009, 06:17 UTC | reply to this comment | I found a fix. At least in my case. I was havingsome really bad chop going on with this game. Even with everything turned all the way down. I have a quad core AMD 3.2 8gb ddr2 evga gtx 285. I new this should play it better. In the pause menu I clicked on "game" turned off "clip capture" and voila! Game runs perfect now. Everything is maxed out and runs flawless. Seems too simple but I was having the same issue as everyone else and wasnt even playable when clip capture was enabled. Turn it off if you havent already and see what happens! |
| Comment #60 by: Casey on 07 Sep 2009, 00:26 UTC | reply to this comment | How come this game can run smooth on a xbox 360 but cant run smooth on a core i7, radeon 4850 with 3g of ddr3 memory. Thats like freaking David ang Goliath. I dont buy consoles and i never will. So im guessing that ill never be buying another GTA game. You would think bye now with all the bad reviews of the pc version that it would be fixed. 2nd patch and when i drive i have horrible stuttering. I really dont understand this. This is almost as bad as the port of Saints Row 2. Rockstar has enough money to feed a small country but they cant seem to hire anybody that can port to a pc. I have a feeling even the computers of the future wont be able to run this game cause its just a bad port nothing more nothing less. You cant fix bad coding bye having a faster pc. |
| Comment #61 by: jay on 09 Nov 2009, 16:34 UTC | reply to this comment | On my old computer setup, i got 40 frames per second on low-medium settings @ 1024 x 768. The setup that achieved this is below:
nForce 4 mainboard
nVidia 7800GTX
athlon x2 dual core 4800+
2gb DDR400mhz ram
NZXT guardian case with laods of cooling
Now, i love this game. So i bought all the parts and built a computer that would more than handle this game. It should run perfectly. Instead the game freezes every 2-5 seconds for a length of about 1-3 seconds. Between the freezes, you can see a perfect 60fps of animation. But the freezes make it completely unplayable. This happens on HIGH or LOW settings. Not the slightest change in FPS or freezes going from 1920 x 1080 max settings and down to 1024x768 low settings. This game is pathetically unoptimized. The rig that i built is below:
Gigabyte mainboard
ati radeon 4870 1gb gddr5
phenom II dual core 550 black edition overclocked to 3.93ghz (prime95 stable)
4gb dual channel DDR 1333mhz
antec 900 two case with loads of cooling
This setup runs Farcry 2 at 1920x1080 all settings Veryhigh/ultra high @ 60fps (vsync'd to my monitor's 60hz refresh rate, in reality it can render more fps)
It runs crysis in 1920 x 1080 res @ 60fps
It runs Counter-strike source 1920 x 1080 all settings max (8 x AA, 16 x af) @ 60fps vsynced.
GTA IV WONT RUN ON LOW, MID OR HIGH SETTINGS! THIS IS PATHETIC! |
| Comment #62 by: Maverick on 30 Nov 2009, 02:41 UTC | reply to this comment | Pretty much agree with all of you-with the exception of 'mister know-it-all, who thinks this pos is just dandy. Why is'nt there more complaining about not being able to use a joysick or steering wheel? For these morons to make such an insulting decision (along with a million others) to force pc gamers to use a keyboard/mouse to drive a vehicle is so illogical..
Who does that? Somebody get some pics of these losers at Rockstar and put them on the internet for the lying crooks that they are. There are also laws in this country to protect consumers from faulty products. I have'nt heard of one person or organization taking these idiots to court. The people who created this joke of a game knew all of us would be furious, but this obviously did'nt matter much to them. What a joke. |
| Comment #63 by: Paul on 14 Dec 2009, 04:29 UTC | reply to this comment | I've just bought GTA IV to find out it runs slow even on low settings (ive got an high end pc aswell, i7core with 12 gig of DDR3 ram!) there are small halts or pauses when driving, its horrible! |
| Comment #64 by: Vincent on 30 Jan 2010, 22:56 UTC | reply to this comment | Top of the line PC here too (6gb of ram, quad i7core, great/new vid card with latest drivers), and there is choppiness when driving in teh game!! This is not acceptable, as this will make later missions impossible to complete since you have to drive perfectly.. What a waste! Is there really no fix for this?? |
| Comment #65 by: deoshermes on 22 Mar 2010, 23:16 UTC | reply to this comment | I don't get how the game works:
I have an Intel i7 920 + 6GBDDR trippkle + Sapphire hd5850 Toxic and the game manages to lag whenever I press a button for a short time,
whether on foot or in a car...
what the hell is wrong? even when I put all settings to the lowest it lags like a slut... |
| Comment #66 by: theharfella on 14 May 2010, 21:34 UTC | reply to this comment | Crap Crap Crap... I just can't believe this. PC is a month old ..2.9 ghz processer .. 4 gb of mem... 1gb video . Latest video drivers.... latest directx .... Have reinstalled game... ran latest patches. Tried stopping all unneeded processes. stopped antivirus software... Tried running memrestrict commandline...
GTA IV still runs so slow its unplayable even with graphics set to lowest settings..
Don't buy this game ... IT SUCKS. |
| Comment #67 by: Neoraj on 26 Aug 2010, 07:57 UTC | reply to this comment | I was very eager to play this edition of GTA, Ive played all the PC versions of GTA so many times over!! I bought this game and installed Vista upgraded hardware(Core 2 quad, 2 GB RAM 1 GB GC) and still what the hell its working so damn slow!! I am really disappointed with this and since I am from India I cant even return the damn game to the stores!! |
| Comment #68 by: Bilal on 24 Oct 2011, 15:01 UTC | reply to this comment | I got intel i3 second generation. 3.10ghz 2100
4gb 1600 bus crrosair ram
500 gb 16mb Ati HD 6570 1gb 650mhz GPU
All windows & drivers are latest and uptodated
Still i got hanging on every 1 to 2 minutes even on the lowest setting.
If this is not high spec system than what they say a high spec system is..... |
| Comment #69 by: Phil on 14 Dec 2011, 06:54 UTC | reply to this comment | Just bought a Radeon 6870 2GB card. I have 8 gigs of RAM, quad core cpu, 750 W power supply. Run Crysis on max settings with NO lag. Run Metro 2033 on max settings with NO lag. Run GTA 4 on medium settings and the game crashes. Hmmmm...... | |
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