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GRUB 2: the New Boot Loader in Ubuntu 9.10

Karmic Koala's nextgen boot loader

By Marius Nestor, Linux Editor

9th of June 2009, 10:53 GMT

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UDS (Ubuntu Developer Summit) for Karmic Koala took place this year, between the 25th and 29th of May, in Barcelona, Spain. There were 270 blueprints that needed to be discussed during the summit, like the new professional look of Plymouth (an application that takes care of the graphical boot animation) for Karmic Koala, which will not become reality very soon. However, some of the ideas discussed at UDS will be implemented in the next version of the Ubuntu operating system, due for release in late October 2009. One of these was the "grub2-as-default" discussion, and Colin Watson had the pleasure to announce last night that GRUB 2 would definitely be the default boot loader in Ubuntu 9.10.

"We do not expect to be changing the boot loader for existing installations, at least not at this time; this is an inherently risky operation. (Remember that we don't even automatically reinstall the boot loader when we upgrade to new versions of GRUB Legacy, let alone when changing to a complete reimplementation.)" - Colin Watson said in the official announcement.

This is a very good idea, and users of all Linux distributions should replace their old GRUB boot loaders with the next-generation GRUB 2 one, if they didn't already. Why? Simply, because GRUB wasn't updated since 1996 and it doesn't have support for today's BIOSes. But, let's see exactly what GRUB 2 will bring new to the table:

· Support for newer systems;
· Scripting support;
· Internationalization support;
· A new way to number partitions;
· Improved memory management;
· Cross-platform installation support;
· Graphical user interface;
· Portable;
· and many more.

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GRUB 2 in Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) Daily Build 20090609


And, talking about good news, we should let our readers know that EXT4 is already the default filesystem in the daily builds of Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala).

Getting back to GRUB 2, those who want to see it in action, should know that it will be available in the daily builds, starting with today, June 9th. Even if it's not recommended, anxious Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) users or those who just want to test GRUB 2 without reinstalling their systems, can find detailed installation instructions here. Bugs can be reported here.

We, here at the Softpedia Labs, will keep you up-to-date with the new features of Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) in the next weeks or months. Until then, do not forget to visit our website on Thursday (June 11th) for our usual first look at the second alpha of the upcoming Ubuntu 9.10 operating system.

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Comment #1 by: Joe on 10 Jun 2009, 07:57 GMT reply to this comment

Is it just me, or does the screenshot clearly show grub 1.96 rather than 2?

Comment #1.1 by: Marius Nestor on 10 Jun 2009, 09:45 GMT

Hi Joe, that is the actual version of GRUB 2 :) The legacy version of GRUB is at version 0.97... you can check it out on its official homepage http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

Comment #1.2 by: Stevie Wonder on 10 Jun 2009, 10:06 GMT

GRUB 1.96 IS a version of grub2.
The latest version of the original (aka "legacy") GRUB is v0.97.

Why they didn't call it GRUB v2.0 I have no idea.

Comment #1.3 by: thartist on 13 Jun 2009, 18:01 GMT

yes, but it is a usual thing that development version are named a high number below the final intended number, like for version 2 they will go from 1.96, up to 1.99 or even a finer 1.999 until they reach the final 2 for release.


Comment #2 by: knef on 10 Jun 2009, 09:56 GMT reply to this comment

Screenshot shows future GRUB 2. Currently Ubuntu 9.04 uses GRUB 0.97

Comment #2.1 by: Anon on 11 Jun 2009, 19:06 GMT

"Colin Watson had the pleasure to announce last night that GRUB 2 would definitely be the default boot loader in Ubuntu 9.10."

You didn't read this article, did you.


Comment #3 by: Brandon on 10 Jun 2009, 14:25 GMT reply to this comment

"users of all Linux distributions should replace their old GRUB boot loaders with the next-generation GRUB 2 one, if they didn't already. Why? Simply, because GRUB wasn't updated since 1996 and it doesn't have support for today's BIOSes."

How many BIOSes do I need my grub install to support? My "old GRUB boot loader" boots from my BIOS, or I wouldn't be using it.

Comment #3.1 by: AlexandreP on 13 Jun 2009, 03:03 GMT

In fact, what this part of the article was about is that GRUB Legacy works with PCs that got a BIOS. More recent computers may have other types of firmwares. Just think about MacIntel: they don't have a BIOS, they have EFI. GRUB 2 is already ported to EFI, while GRUB Legacy isn't and won't. Reading GRUB's website, it appears GRUB 2 is already ported to EFI, OpenFirmware and Coreboot, and an UltraSparc port is in progress. This is something GRUB Legacy won't ever be.

Comment #3.2 by: thartist on 13 Jun 2009, 18:05 GMT

it supports YOUR - CURRENT bios fella, but developers need it to support latest and newer things to come. duh...


Comment #4 by: jcmax on 10 Jun 2009, 14:32 GMT reply to this comment

hey folks, how to re-install my old grub in to this new grub 2 next generation
?

Comment #4.1 by: Marius Nestor on 10 Jun 2009, 19:15 GMT

Hi, if you have Ubuntu 9.04, try the instructions from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing


Comment #5 by: ben on 11 Jun 2009, 17:01 GMT reply to this comment

looks just as boring as the old bootloader

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Comment #6 by: Luke on 11 Jun 2009, 23:34 GMT reply to this comment

I don't see what is wrong with the original GRUB, I have never encountered any problems with my 3 machines.

Comment #6.1 by: AlexandreP on 13 Jun 2009, 03:08 GMT

GRUB Legacy is not portable to other architectures, while GRUB 2 is. GRUB Legacy works on PCs with BIOS, which is the most frequent type of PCs available on today's market. But other types of firmwares to replace aging BIOS exist -- think about EFI the MacIntels have. Reading GRUB's website, GRUB 2 has already been ported to EFI, OpenFirmware (PowerPC) and Coreboot (Linux-Bios), and a port to UltraSparc is on the way. GRUB Legacy can't and won't be ported to these architectures.


Comment #7 by: b1ackmai1er on 12 Jun 2009, 13:19 GMT reply to this comment

Worked for me. Thanks.


Comment #8 by: Luis on 30 Jun 2009, 01:41 GMT reply to this comment

They better start using a nice grub2 theme... Novell has been doing it for years!


Comment #9 by: Angel MAss on 08 Jul 2009, 00:37 GMT reply to this comment

I wonder if would be easier to install the animated GRUB menus on this one


Comment #10 by: Harald vf on 05 Nov 2009, 16:27 GMT reply to this comment

I was careless enough to make a fresh installation of Karmic on my multiboot -laptop (WXP, Jaunty, FreeBSD, Opensolaris on a USB disk), and Grub2 ruined my day - it was not possible to boot off the USB disk anymore. Downgrading to Grub1 didn't work either, I had to go back to Jaunty and do an upgrade to Karmic to avoid the Grub2 pitfall.
Code bloat: the longer I work with Ubuntu, the fatter the distro gets, and I have started to use PCBSD more and more often - a really nice OS with all the codecs I need for listening to my favourite countrty stations, plus ZFS.


Comment #11 by: ts boston on 06 Nov 2009, 03:47 GMT reply to this comment

yesterday i have installed ubuntu 9.10 (single OS into hdd). this grub 2 ruined my entire day neither. it seems grub legacy cant overwrite MBR with grub 2. After bios booting from my hdd, it says one word GRUB in one line not preceeding into grub menu. If I boot from ubuntu LiveCD and start from my hard disk then it shows GRUB menu finally. Please give suggestions what should i have to do?

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