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The many bugs and glitches in Fallout: New Vegas, the latest post apocalyptic role playing game from Obsidian and Bethesda, are caused by the size and the 'sheer expanse' of the game's world.
Fallout: New Vegas has barely been launched for two weeks and already a huge amount of glitches and bugs
were spotted by the players who bought the game in the first few days.
Many were pretty hilarious or even useful to the player
, but others caused corrupt game saves and didn't allow them to access certain quests or vital areas of the game.
Many of those problems have been already fixed through the three patches that were released up until now, culminating with last week's patch 1.01 released on all three platforms, PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360
Now, after defending the game's engine
, the GECK, senior designer Chris Avellone has talked about the bugs experienced by players and how they were impossible to detect by even the most skilled testers, due to the sheer expanse of the game and its virtual world.
"I think when you create a game as large as Fallout 3 or New Vegas you are going to run into issues that even a testing team of 300 won't spot, so we're just trying to address those as quickly as possible and so is Bethesda.
"It's kind of like the bugs of the real world - the sheer expanse of what you're dealing with causes problems," he joked.
Bethesda, the publisher of Fallout: New Vegas, and Obsidian, its developer, have both revealed that they are constantly monitoring all of the bugs and glitches encountered by players and will fix them all as good as they can.
However, even with the patch, people are still experiencing a lot of problems, and, ironically, are also getting new errors, not seen until the patch was installed on their system.
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|Comment #1 by: Fallout3er on 02 Nov 2010, 10:52 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Just learn to not do stupid stuff like jumping on cars etc. Same as fallout 3? maybe people forgot that. Brilliant game love the mods thanks for the quick response to the patchs. Bring on the holidays!
|Comment #1.1 by: Johny Hates You!!! on 21 Jan 2011, 04:09 GMT|
I WANT TO JUMP ON THAT CAR AND IT KILLS ME!! NOT COOL WHAT IF I WANT TO GET AWAY FROM BADDAS BRAMIN?? I GOTTA CHOOSE GET POWNED BY BEAST OR CAR??? WTF!!!!! ps. I like peanut butter.
|Comment #2 by: yessir on 02 Nov 2010, 12:27 UTC|| reply to this comment|
The game engine is not called GECK, thats the tool used to edit the game data. Gamebryo is the engine.
|Comment #3 by: Mr Wiggles on 02 Nov 2010, 15:09 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I don't buy that.
True, you'll find bugs in any game, especially one as large as Fallout NV, but many of the bugs myself and others have experienced are clearly a result of lack of attention to detail rather than being the kind of bugs that are too obscure/situation-specific to easily find.
One example I can think of is a weapon mod you can buy for the laser rifle that is supposd to split the beam into two and add 30% damage. In actuality it splits the beam into 3 and doesn't add the damage bonus.
This is not a game breaker, but having used the GECK editor to look at the mod, It's obvious that this isn't a random bug that has sprung up through some convoluted series of events, the item was simply never set up properly and no one bothered to double check it worked before the game was released.
Examples of these kinds of bugs springing from lack of attention to detail can be found throughout Fallout New Vegas, and many of Obsidian's previous games.
Don't get me wrong, Fallout NV is a great game but it annoys me when developers use this kind of excuse to justify them not properly testing their games.
|Comment #4 by: Joey (upset) on 02 Nov 2010, 19:06 UTC|| reply to this comment|
They said that because it is so big testers couldn't possible find all glitches. When I started the game the doctor that I had to choose how I wanted to start strunk. My game has frozen over 100 time since the game came out. The problem here is that the same engine that plagued fallout 3 was used in new vegas. Fallout 3 was never repaired and they passed the problem on to new vegas to save money instead of perfecting it to make a great game. The patch that was sent actually made the game worse in new vegas and what will probably happen is we will get about 3 more bogus patches and then they will let us know that they tried and it could not be fixed and by then they would have made there money. It is a sorry excuse for a company to put out a product that just does not work. I feel like I bought a big mac meal and they left out the fries and then when you ask hey where are my fries. They say eat your big mac and drink your coke we will try to get you your fries you paid for in a few months. It's bull and no system should support a game developer that doesn't care enough to make a game complete. We paid for 100% not 60%. Will I be getting $20.00 back ? Since I didn't get a full game.
|Comment #5 by: lloyd wood on 02 Nov 2010, 22:27 UTC|| reply to this comment|
on my fallout new vagas on ps3 my man keeps on dieing, her stays alive for about 3mins and then he dies. and it freezes. what should i do
|Comment #6 by: SB on 02 Nov 2010, 23:46 UTC|| reply to this comment|
this game locks up on me in the bottom of vault 22 after about 10 secs of gameplay from my save spot... broken... and i was lvl 20... i'm furious
|Comment #6.1 by: dan on 13 Nov 2010, 20:16 GMT|
me 2 lvl 22 it crashes on way to a vault, the save has a glitch and i didn't have a back up 1 so have to start all over again :(
|Comment #7 by: JTH on 03 Nov 2010, 15:41 UTC|| reply to this comment|
"Sheer expanse" = can't fix it.
If you follow the main quest everything is fine, the more side quests you add the more it will glitch and eventually lock your system. I can't play more than 5 or 10 minutes without the PS3 locking up--not just a game freeze.
300 beta testers should be fired for their ineptitude.
|Comment #8 by: Mr.White on 05 Nov 2010, 15:57 UTC|| reply to this comment|
what a load of Sh1t obsidian/bethesda obviously dident beta test this abortion of a game , if they would have they would have picked up on the fact that ever version of the game is unplayible due to freezing, lag and crashs from the very begining in goodsprings.
Testing team of 300 dont make me laugh and imposible to detect due to sheer volume of game Bull SH1T
As for the patch or 2 patchs for pc it dident fix a god dam thing, the game is still broken and fans and gamers are left with nothing but a $60-$80 paper weight.
returning mine today
|Comment #9 by: catseyetiger on 05 Nov 2010, 23:40 UTC|| reply to this comment|
The problems lie with the freezes and impossible to complete missions! I put a spell on you is the bad. But while attacking nelson with the ncr the game quit. kicking me out to black screen! this has happened more than i care to admit! The patch was not enough in fact it would seem play testing was not enough either! get more play testers and test all the missions! explore! also getting your folks to follow you is a pain when they just stop!
this game needs a LOT of patches! for real!
|Comment #10 by: bob on 08 Nov 2010, 19:47 UTC|| reply to this comment|
like every couple of sec it like freezes its bull
|Comment #12 by: darkguyver82 on 10 Nov 2010, 16:08 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I've been plagued by all kinds of glitches from day one! Unfortunately, the good glitches like the money and exp glitches get fixed by the patch, but I still can't use the solar gun without it just not working and I constantly wait for the game to freeze........I mean come on! You can't just say, "save often" and everything be ok.....I save all the * time but when it freezes every 10 seconds it doesn't make the game enjoyable. I don't know about you guys but my but is going back to Gamestop and will be trading it in for something less of a mess!
|Comment #13 by: Incendiary on 11 Nov 2010, 05:07 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I love the game and the franchise but this game is the most buggy I've seen on PS3. It's unstable, freezes, blue screen, and other weirdness (see youtube). Like the frequent saves aren't enough, changing rooms so frequently and loading is slow really slows down the game. After Borderlands, the gameplay is very stop and go.
|Comment #14 by: ace1989 on 13 Nov 2010, 05:23 UTC|| reply to this comment|
you need a patch for entering the strip it freezes the entire xbox now when i try to enter the strip for some reason this is the only error i have had with the game and it is stopping me from completing the game
|Comment #14.1 by: Bill Cosby on 22 Nov 2010, 04:31 GMT|
The same thing is happening to me, I open the gate to the strip and it goes to the loading screen, but when it is done it just goes to a black screen and I have to manually restart my PS3, I've done everything I can without having to enter the strip since the problem started, but now I it is all I have left.
|Comment #14.2 by: matti on 03 Dec 2010, 05:38 GMT|
i found that if i stored any items in the containers in the lucky 38 i had this issue, i tried several different variations, but with the same effect. I just stopped storing anything on the strip, and i have not had this problem since. I just store my stuff in a dumpster in goodsprings, and it seems to have helped with the strip issue, but i still get random crashes after about an hour of play. It seems to matter how much ground you cover, and how many items you collect. i could play for five hours inside mcarren with no issues, but walking from one side of the map to the other, and collecting a lot of stuff on the way, always causes crashes. i seem to have fewer crashes with fewer items on me and my companions.
|Comment #15 by: wihte demon on 18 Nov 2010, 16:21 UTC|| reply to this comment|
wtf my data keeps getting effin corupt im bout to break the disk i paid $70.99 for dis game friggin make a patch that actually helps
|Comment #16 by: NCR Veteran Desert Ranger on 03 Dec 2010, 07:27 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I'm not liking this ive spent a whole lot of time on this game ive finally got the armor and guns that ive Ben looking for and then when I try to continue to new Vegas which ive already been to in the same save I cant return to the strip ive been locked out of the north gate that enters into the strip and it says that it requires a key to open which there is no key to open that gate in the first so for now I'm screwed and I'm infuriated by this horrible glitch and i really hope that it gets patched so I can continue onward through the game.
|Comment #17 by: Wolfen on 17 Dec 2010, 17:19 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I can't level up at all! I'm still at level one and I completed 15 quests and have about 21,500 XP!
|Comment #18 by: wastelander101 on 03 Jan 2011, 09:23 UTC|| reply to this comment|
had charcters fading in and out of walls, one stopped me from completing a mission. only installed latest patch a few days ago. (PS3) G.I. blues mission - the king got stuck in a wall.
|Comment #19 by: Mari on 21 Jan 2011, 01:30 UTC|| reply to this comment|
How do I even install a patch!? I love this game but it is constantly freezing up on my! I just got my kids to sleep, as a mom this is my "downtime" and the minute the game loaded it froze! So frustrating, its not like the game is cheap!
|Comment #20 by: Standalone707 on 21 Jan 2011, 04:05 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Im starting to hate this game. I got the full way through without any glitches, i decided to make another person and deleted the old one 2. I be freinds with the powder gangers and be aposite of my first dude and now everytime i load im not aloud to save, go to primm, fast travel, or many other things or it freezes the goddamm game up. Im done with there games the dang producers need to learn how to make better games that actually work. I think ill go kill some zombies on call of duty black ops, that never glitchez. Oh yeh cmment #1 lf the game is about exploring and runing around doing fun things and it wont let me jump on a car they put there then they need to fix that car. If i want to jump on that car then they gotta let me jump on it...
|Comment #21 by: What a fail on 21 Jan 2011, 06:36 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Just encountered the Vault 34 save corrupt glitch, which renders my character completely useless, seeing that the last save other than the 3 in the Vault sets hours back. Being that Vault 34 is linked to multiple quests, its just sheer not giving a * about the game. Throw in all of the minor graphical glitches that I experienced the first day I owned the game, and you have a terrible release product. I have played open and closed betas that feel more polished than this game, not to mention the $60 dollars paid for it. I just hope to god that they don't show this sort of carelessness with Elder Scrolls V
|Comment #21.1 by: Annnoyed on 22 Jan 2011, 17:28 GMT|
Has anyone experienced their character moving off to the edge of the screen so you can barely see them....extremely annoying!
|Comment #22 by: randomguy4653 on 08 Feb 2011, 03:59 UTC|| reply to this comment|
heres a new glitch i found on november 8th 2010 that makes you go off the map on a ps3 go to searchlight airport then go over to the big tanks on the left side of the red building jump on top then jump over the fence the fence is where its supposed to stop you if you go south past that mountain it will take you a while u will see the end of the creation of the game it will be bright jump off and you will hit irradiaded water 1 rad per second note. the only way to get backs is to fast travel. also at mojave outpost the gate that say you need a key on the other side theres no gate just fence the road will end after short while also in 3rd person you will see i spots parts of land blue or purple
|Comment #23 by: DeuxNega on 22 Apr 2011, 02:44 UTC|| reply to this comment|
If you're wearing a faction clothing, and trade it to the receiver, if before the message comes up saying, "You are no longer dressed as [Insert faction here]" you press ANY BUTTON, you won't have the option to exit. The only button you can press is "A", the message is still up, and pressing the button only gives away your stuff. You'll have to exit the game. I'm unsure if this is true for any other consoles.
|Comment #24 by: vaultuser33 on 05 Jul 2011, 21:51 UTC|| reply to this comment|
My glitch is that Victor freezes on me and wont let me use the elevator so i am stuck. I had all the good weapons, mods, ammo, (you name it) etc.
|Comment #25 by: doug the eyebot hater on 29 Aug 2011, 03:05 UTC|| reply to this comment|
yeah Iv been hit with the dreaded eye bot companion freeze @_@!! every time he gets to hsi thrid trust level*or whaterever it is* It talks to me saying go here then freezes everything.. I can moving in curcles and look aroudn change views but cant do anythign else.. thats a BIG * up that
|Comment #26 by: deathclaw slayer on 22 Dec 2011, 21:27 UTC|| reply to this comment|
the screen on my ps3 goes purple and looses sound almost every time.and it happens before i can even get to the main menu. what do i do?
|Comment #27 by: BitBoss on 06 May 2012, 01:42 UTC|| reply to this comment|
300 testers couldn't spot any of the many and varied bugs - they must be the most incompetent gamers on earth - or is it that Bethesda are taking a leaf out of Microsofts operational handbook by releasing half done software for free PUBLIC testing.....
|Comment #28 by: redman1 on 21 May 2012, 02:10 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I have fallout new vagas.and i play it and it stop at random times all of it stops. i can,t go to xbox home when i push the xbox home.it all stop game and all.i tune off and back on its black. all my other games in it work good. is it the game or what?
|Comment #29 by: Jones on 20 Jun 2012, 13:19 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I am gettin a lot of glitches and it froze on me if I could return it and get my money back belive me I would
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