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March 18th, 2009, 13:47 GMT · By Elena Gorgan
Disney’s ‘The Princess and the Frog’ Has Black Princess, White Prince |
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It’s been quite a long while since Disney announced “The Princess and the Frog,” the first film of its kind to have a black princess as the main heroine, but the controversy regarding it just won’t die down. The most recent stills from the movie have only added more fuel to the fire, as the studio is accused by fans on the Internet of racism, several reports in the media can confirm.
Princess Tiana is the main heroine of “The Princess and the Frog” and also the first black princess to appear in a Disney film as the main focus of the story. Although Disney’s move in this sense was initially applauded, it is now getting a lot of heat not for the princess but for the male character. Prince Naveen of Maldonia, voiced by a Brazilian actor, is Tiana’s soul-mate and should, by all accounts, also be black – yet fans seem to think that he is actually one of the few white characters in the entire film. There is absolutely no doubt that the prince is several shades whiter than his princess. While some fans have embraced Disney’s choice, saying it is the perfect example of the “melting pot America,” others are rushing to chart rooms and forums to vent their frustration. Disney is sending the wrong message with this film, most of them are pointing out, as in, that black love is not possible and certainly not commendable on the big screen. “I think it’s sad that he is white because it’s saying that black love isn’t good enough and that black men could never be princes.” one fan shares on a dedicated forum, as cited by the Daily Mail. “Disney had the perfect chance to make its first black prince, but instead it decided to go the controversial route.” another one adds. One fan even notes that, while Disney has made the prince white, the villain is black – “I am very disappointed and I wished Disney had made the prince black, (and the ironic thing is the prince in the movie is white but the evil voodoo villain is voiced by a black actor and is black).” “The Princess and the Frog” is scheduled for release in December 2009, which is why, so far, the fans have kept this more on dedicated forums without letting their anger spill in the media. Disney has not yet responded to the latest remarks regarding its racist take on the story, but keep an eye on this space for when it does.
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| Comment #1 by: Nominis Expers on 20 Mar 2009, 08:37 UTC | reply to this comment | Such complaints are of ignorance. The prince is not "WHITE". He looks middle-eastern if anything. Anyway, color isn't everything. People just make it into a mountain because they/we have a need to be on top. I
t is" this or that". As long as people keep thinking such a way, gray will never come about. The prince if anything is that gray. You don't see this sort of issue from Natives or Asians.
Even more! So what if the villain is "black"? All the other Disney Princesses had "white" villains - yeah, I'm going with the "There is only the blacks and the whites" concept here, so the villains in Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Aladdin and Mulan "MUST" be white! Besides, this is about a prince AND a princess. So, the villain could very well be middle eastern or black (on rare occasions skin colors that are not human) if you go along with "tradition" when it comes to Disney Princess movies.
So, what is more likely? A person who might have roots from Africa practicing Voodoo or a person whose origins were likely from England? Use some sense people. I'm sorry, if they used a white villain and kept up with the FROG theme I highly doubt a priest of a church that follows Jesus Christ will call upon the powers of God to turn some Middle Eastern prince into a frog.
All of this is due to being able to see and thus make categories by colors. Get rid of our eyesight and we wouldn't know who is really what color. Instead we'd make issues over voices, pronunciation, dialect, slang and all that crap! Notice how ridiculous that would be? It is the same here. |
| Comment #1.1 by: Struggle Stylez on 23 Nov 2009, 14:06 GMT | Yes this is a melting pot, and we are all different colors. However, Disney had the perfect chance to show Black Love still exists. With all the things going on with Black families, and this is by no account a blame game, we do have to look at the psychological message that we are sending out to young black women. Racism does exist. Look at the advertisements at Dunkin Donuts. They have a black man screaming serving you coffee, and right next to that picture, they have a white woman smiling. These images have major effects. Look around and open train your eyes to see, and you will see the racism that is made stronger through different media. And the argument that he is middle eastern is so stupid to me. Why couldn't they have just made him black? A prince from Africa. |
| Comment #1.2 by: Truth on 14 Dec 2009, 16:03 GMT | Middle Eastern? Stop being a damn fool. The setting takes place in 1920s New Orleans. Obviously the prince is white unless Disney meant to imply that the prince is actually a mixed Creole. But that would be a long shot. |
| Comment #1.3 by: trose on 19 May 2010, 23:52 GMT | first of all there are only a few of the disney princesses who are of white dipictions. the others are of middle easternand asian as far as worrying about the little girls of color needing a prince they can relate to thats fine but it doesnt have to be a black and white matter i agree that there is the grey aspect. and the prince in princess and the frog is that because it specificly states that he is not white. He is from maldonia and some have comminted that we have a black man and black woman running out country and their little girls have been let down due to the fact that they have no "prince" to relate to. First of all he is mixed and it doesnt matter because color doesnt matter. Thats why there is so much racial tension in society because the kids are not worried about color its the adults who need something to complain about and then the children pick up on that. We all bleed red and we all breath the same air so why does it make a difference. Yea disney could make a prince who was depicted as more african looking but there are a lot of black men who do favor prince navine its all a matter of perception. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and love is in the heart of the lover. Your little girls will be happy if you are happy color is not what makes the world go round life is too short to dwell on it. Disney is about making children happy and believing in magical moments and people who worry about matters like this are not getting the true disnye spirit. |
| Comment #1.4 by: Disneyfan83 on 18 Aug 2011, 23:11 GMT | Well said. |
| Comment #2 by: A. Marie on 20 Mar 2009, 18:37 UTC | reply to this comment | the prince looks hispanic to me or he could be creole...ppl are so upset over nothing calm down. |
| Comment #3 by: Marie on 21 Mar 2009, 03:26 UTC | reply to this comment | the price doesnt' look white, and it shouldn't matter if he is. its essentially a love story..why can't people just keep it to that instead of letting it blow up into some racial argument. |
| Comment #4 by: Shelly on 21 Mar 2009, 13:46 UTC | reply to this comment | I do believe the prince in the story SHOULD be black. It would be perfect to have a disney film with a black prince and princess. Maybe one might understand the frustration if disney made a film with a brazilian princess and black prince. Then would you think something was wrong?
Black men should be represented as well. Black love is possible and SHOULD be represented. |
| Comment #4.1 by: jessy on 26 Oct 2009, 09:30 GMT | Why does it matter? They can just make another movie with a black prince. A black princess does NOT have to be with a black prince. Do you have a problem with interracial couples in the real world or something? |
| Comment #4.2 by: Grace on 21 Dec 2009, 05:39 GMT | But there was a beautiful example of a healthy African American couple, were you guys getting popcorn for the beginning? Tiana's parents, in my opinion, were the best example of love in the movie. Her dad was probably my favorite character, even if his on screen time was short, what a loving dad and hard worker. |
| Comment #5 by: anonymous on 23 Mar 2009, 06:12 UTC | reply to this comment | Stop complaining. There are many black and white characters in this film. There is a black man in this film who is a good role model. |
| Comment #6 by: Nominis Expers on 27 Mar 2009, 07:10 UTC | reply to this comment | "Maybe one might understand the frustration if Disney made a film with a Brazilian princess and black prince. Then would you think something was wrong?"
Personally, not at all. If you want a "black" coupling in a Disney fairytale, then you'd need to skip that African-American part. The best they'd be able to do is make her marry an American president and thus she still wouldn't be a princess and it would be set somewhere in the future since our president is married.
As, said, for the African-AMERICAN PRINCESS theme to work out, she'd have to marry a foreign prince. Now, while there is African Royalty, not all Africans are black. In fact there was a great deal of segregation in Africa as well, which is known as apartheid in South Africa. It made racial segregation legal and was controlled by the government for years, 1948 and 1994. Before that it was still around, but unofficial. From what I know, black Africans are to South Africa as Native American Indians are to America to an extent.
While it would be difficult, I suppose such could have been done, but there are a lot of politics to consider. There is also the fact that people would cry out that Disney doesn't think "black people can be royalty" and all that crap because ultimately she likely would have gone back to Africa with him, and thus become an African princess rather than an American one. If he stayed with her, he'd be denouncing his royal status and they'd just be "common".
Really, please, look at the logic. |
| Comment #6.1 by: eswhj on 24 May 2009, 18:32 GMT | I have an African American friend who married an African prince and live in the US. I don't really understand your point. It's a fairy tale, who every needed realism for that. Anyway he is darker than my kids who are 3/4 African American, and much darker than I as I am only 1/2 black. |
| Comment #7 by: Black married man on 28 Mar 2009, 03:56 UTC | reply to this comment | Black people don't be fooled or let your guard down. This is a racist act. They will say he's not white. You say his skin color is. They will say why make this about race we suppose to be over that. You say well if we all are, than what was so hard about making a black prince. This has me furious and the black people doing the voices like Oprah who should Know better, they sold out for money or they just are blind to the fact. I am not racist i am married to a white woman but i can see and so can she that this is a racist act by Disney. Disney and others alike have been racist by never creating black kings,queens,prince, and princess. Until now after over 20 years finally a ONLy a black princess. IT SEEMS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF THIS MOVIE IS TO DESTROY THE IMAGE THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HIS FAMILY HAVE CREATED FOR THE WORLD TO SEE. THIS WILL ONLY SET US BACK AS A PEOPLE ALL RACES BECAUSE OUR CHILDREN WILL BE THE ONES WHO TAKE THESE IMAGES INTO THE FURTURE WITH THEM. WHICH WILL KEEP STEROTYPES STRONG AND ALIVE. And i hope this movie show in theaters. |
| Comment #7.1 by: eswhj on 24 May 2009, 18:27 GMT | As a biracial woman, married to a wonderful black man, I take exception to this comment. For people with this opinion, nothing is ever enough. Conspiracy is seen everywhere. I don't know if Naveen is white or black or mixed or something else. I do know he is darker than my children who are 3/4 black. I guess you would think they were white as well. |
| Comment #8 by: TM on 29 Mar 2009, 07:30 UTC | reply to this comment | I think they didn't make the prince black because the idea of this movie is to point out that color doesn't matter.Marrying a black princess and a white prince(or the other way around,it doesn't really matter) is the best way to show it.About the villain...He could have been black or white.Both ways there would be many who don't agree,so if you all say color doesn't matter why are people so worked up about this.It would be strange,however, to make the movie where Tiana is the only afro-american.(Think about how it would be to have Cinderella be the only white in africa...)That's why they chose to do more black characters, not because they thought the color represented villains(also,in all the other disney movies villains are white.) |
| Comment #8.1 by: Beautifully Black on 14 Nov 2009, 23:35 GMT | (above comment on March 29, 2009) "I think they didn't make the prince black because the idea of this movie is to point out that color doesn't matter."
Ok, I really think the aforementioned comment was not well thought about at all. My response to this is: So the previous princess movies were made to point out that color DOES matter? I'm lost. How come they waited until the "black" princess had her turn to make it NOT an issue of race? White people are tired of us crying about things being racist, well, stop doing racist S&*% and we won't have anything to say! All the other Disney movies are set in places where we've only seen in fairy tale books and movies so it gives little girls the illusion that these things only happen in make believe which keeps their imaginations strong because they end up going through life searching for just that. I know I did. What this movie is teaching our little black girls is that if they just go to New Orleans, they can find a white man and live happily ever after. So forget the brothers, because they aren't good enough anyway. Disney should have made the movie into a fairy tale spin off of "Coming to America", named the prince Akeem from Zamunda, with a sidekick named Semi who come to Queens to find Akeem a bride. That way it would have been more realistic to "our" children. That's the closest African American fairy tale that I've seen. |
| Comment #9 by: Nominis Expers on 01 Apr 2009, 09:10 UTC | reply to this comment | Jafar wasn't white. In fact, there were no white people in Aladdin though some might consider the sultan as such. Maleficent is green and Ursla was gray. Therefore, not all Disney villains are white, but dominately one could say they are. |
| Comment #10 by: Excellent on 02 Apr 2009, 11:19 UTC | reply to this comment | Who is kidding who? It matters.
If society is so colorblind or if Disney is saying "whats the big deal", then pair up Cinderella with a "Brotha". Thats what I thought-not going to happen because Disney is well aware of images and their importance. Working in marketing for a global biotech firm, I can tell you that nothing is done by accident. They do focus groups and take months to design even one character. They seem to be saying "ok, ok..we'll changed Maddie to Tiana, and she wont be a maid for a white woman now but hell lets have some fun and give her a non-clearly Black prince."
Having a 5 year old daughter, and I want a good reason to go and see this film, I am glad that Disney has made some improvements- but they seemed to go out of their way to make the prince non-Black. Why?
Why not use a Denzel, Will Smith, Obama, the list goes on and on template? |
| Comment #11 by: Misty on 02 Apr 2009, 22:10 UTC | reply to this comment | Prince is NOT white, he is Latino or middle eastern! And that's not a bad thing because there is no representation of Latinos in Disney films either....let's just be happy there is finally something that includes both groups, black and Hispanic, that have been neglected by DISNEY |
| Comment #11.1 by: Karen on 07 Mar 2010, 23:45 GMT | HIs name is Bruno Campos he is from Brazil |
| Comment #12 by: Alyssa on 13 Apr 2009, 03:19 UTC | reply to this comment | They arnt going to change it and they shouldnt have to. I dont see what the big deal is. He is an interracial or hispanic Prince. He is not white. Look at Philip, Eric, and the Prince from Beauty and the Beast they are white. And if some people see him as white. Then its obviously in the eye of the beholder. Because I have been around a few sites now and its very mixed. Some think hispanic and some think interracial which is what President Obama is. And others very blindly think hes white. This will still come out and be a big hit. The funny part is a bunch of mindless adults are making a big deal about this. Just enjoy it for what it is. |
| Comment #13 by: kanaky on 13 Apr 2009, 22:57 UTC | reply to this comment | *cough* *cough* *cough* people are speculating when they already know the truth lol!
how many latinos have natural blond hair ?( overly mussed at that ) hum ....not many , please spare me those with a complete european heritage . most just don't fit the mold. I like the fact people are brushing this off as a "non issue". I would like to see a white princess fall in love with a black prince. we all know this will mean bad business. Also this "prince" right here comes from a country we have never heard of , and he has a made up ethnicity lol! but the princess SHE is African american.
Let's be honest, if race did not matter then we wouldn't be begging for a black princess .Yes an "ethnic" or "brown" princess had to be made .
I am lol! at the new Disney rep. the voice over Anika Noni Rose. Its OK she is making "history" as she puts it. she said race didn't matter but admitted it was soooo important to have a real black princess. Race still don't matter ? girl take your cheque, you don't believe what you preach.we already know we have to be "multicultural" that's all we got LMAO!
I am not going to boycott it. I will be watching Monster's ball instead lol!
what did Eric Holder say again ? |
| Comment #13.1 by: Karen on 07 Mar 2010, 23:54 GMT | actually my nephew has blonde hair and blue eyes he is half white half mexican. my children have dark hair but they are both mixed black and white and they look lighter then the prince well at least my son does and the man who plays the prince is from Brazil |
| Comment #14 by: yashodha on 20 Apr 2009, 04:23 UTC | reply to this comment | i think if princess is black the prince must be black |
| Comment #15 by: omaya on 22 Apr 2009, 12:46 UTC | reply to this comment | i think it is dont matter that prince is white or black . their love must be true.true love doesnt have a colour. |
| Comment #16 by: Mike on 24 Apr 2009, 04:00 UTC | reply to this comment | Get over it, it's only a cartoon, if you don't like what you see don't watch it. |
| Comment #17 by: chichi on 24 Apr 2009, 23:21 UTC | reply to this comment | Disney has the perfect opportunity to bring itself back to the forefront with using 2D artwork in introducing the first black princess in the animation movie "The Princess and the Frog". I am extremely disappointed in doing so that Disney neglected to have an identifiyable black prince. Why is it that down the line of Disney princesses, that each of their counterparts were of the same race? All of a sudden when it comes to the black princess there has to be some kind of change or token for the portrayal of this story. I don't know why Disney would do something like this. Disney wanted to send a message and the message that is implied is that it is not practical for a black woman and a black man's relationship to exist. It is not the norm; therefore, a black woman would have to look elsewhere for love for her prince. In addition it is also saying that a blackman could neve be a prince or atleast to a black woman. Yes we love interracial relationships, but why is it that the FIRST ( If it was the 2nd or 3rd no problem) has to comporomise herself to find love. I'm glad that Disney thought to have a black princess, but I am certainly not GRATEFUL. If they are going to have a black princess they should present it in the right way. Also just like how I would want my daughter to be able to identify with a princess, I want the same for my son for a prince. Why does the prince HAVE to be non black or mixed or somehow considered black technically , but not identifyably black, in order for him to be deemed desirable. Mulan didn't have this much controversy because the people that put the project together were knowledgeable about the history, and presented the tory in a way that was uplifting to the asian community; however, with this project the people behind it don't seem to have the same vigilance. Disney should be wary of what is offensive and ultimately what message you're sending to your audience. From the start there have been many problems that could have been avoided if the staff took it's time in doing their homework, having focus groups, and just getting ideas from the black community. It's as if you slapped together a plot without any kind of brainstorming thought process and expected great results and it shows. It is very unfortunate because I have grown up watching Disney movies and looked forward to the fruitation of finally having a black princess with her prince in a loving environment, but I will not support this movie or Disney franchise because of the damaging message that it is sending to us and our youth. There ARE BEAUTIFUL BLACK RELATIONSHIPS. Instead of beautiful story being displayed to all the world it is smeared with controversity, negativity, and public resentment because you chose stigmatize black relationships. I would really consider taking the time to fix this issue and have a black prince. I don't think Disney intended to have a black prince because his name was Harry, but later changed to Naveen. Don't skirt around the issue because as far as I know nobody in my household is going out to see this movie. We are disgusted at what Disney is trying to say about black couples and black relationships but you can make this right. Do the right thing and give the black princess her black prince---an identifyable black prince. |
| Comment #18 by: Svannh on 26 Apr 2009, 23:56 UTC | reply to this comment | I was going to see this movie thinking that it would show wonderful black couple in love.... but after I found out that is would not be the case I will be taking any of the children in my family to see this crap I love disney and try to support them as much as I can but when the go make some mass like this black princess white princes it really piss me off you have shown the white princess with their equal counter part the white man why can't you show the black princess with her equal counter part the black man. Wake up and look disney in case you did not notices we have a black president and first lady you need to go back and rewrite this movie.... because it is shown are black little boys and men that they are less then,we need role models for are black boys and men it is also shown are black little girls & women that they have to have a white man to be a princess because a black man is not able to treat them like a princess which is NOT TURE AT ALL and YOU FAILED at this time BIG TIME RE DO THE MOVIE PLEASE ...... |
| Comment #19 by: Neicey89 on 09 May 2009, 22:39 UTC | reply to this comment | there's alot of complaints about the movie. Im very happy that there's finally a Black disney princess. i waited for this ever since I was a child. Yeah I do see why some people are very upset. I think it should of been a first black prince as well as a black princess, but even though he's white, its really ok with me though. It's made already so there's no use arguing about it. Maybe in a next disney film there will be a black prince :). And also to me the prince really don't look all the way white, he could be Bi-racial or hispanic. Anyways Im sure this movie will be great just like the rest of Disney's classics. So Just stop arguing and making judgements about it. |
| Comment #20 by: Derrick on 13 May 2009, 07:54 UTC | reply to this comment | I have a son and it would have been nice to take him to see a Disney movie where both Black men and women were the Prince and Princess. Shame on you Oprah. |
| Comment #21 by: Rebecca on 17 May 2009, 02:44 UTC | reply to this comment | I feel sad that there isn't a black prince, yes, but that still will not stop me from going to see this movie. Disney needs to have more representation of ALL races, not just any specific group.
EVEN SO, I don't think people should be making such a big deal about this! It's getting ridiculous. The story makes sense! If you look at the ethnic make up of New Orleans it's mostly Creole, Black, and White. It makes sense that if the story was set in America in New Orleans that the "princess" would be one of those ethnicity. Heck Tiana is probably mixed herself the way the American people's family backgrounds work out!
The Prince looks Louisianan Creole (a possible mix of French, Spanish, African-American, and Native American heritage) or if his name/title works for you, it's probably of some European decent (probably French). Europeans are mixed as much as Americans honestly.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, The Princess and the Pea is a EUROPEAN FAIRY TALE. If we were going to stick to ethnicity-categorizing then it should be set in Denmark and the characters would be DUTCH because Hans Christian Anderson was DUTCH.
I don't think it is right that Disney hasn't represented a strong Black Prince yet. They REALLY need to get to work on that. But I understand that the story of the Princess and the Pea really doesn't present an opportunity for it. It's a European fairy tale people. It'd get really irritated if they suddenly changed the fact that the prince wasn't European/Creole just to appease people. That would irritate me more than the current situation (IF YOU CAN CALL THIS A SITUATION).
Enjoy the hard work of the animators. They're just trying to tell a story. No one is perfect. Love and Peace everyone. LOVE and PEACE. |
| Comment #22 by: arta on 18 May 2009, 18:40 UTC | reply to this comment | To the guy who said
IT SEEMS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF THIS MOVIE IS TO DESTROY THE IMAGE THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HIS FAMILY HAVE CREATED FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.
I guess you forgot president obama actually came from an interracial realtionship himself since his mom is white. and i am sure that's what disney's main objective is. not to make a movie for children's enjoyment or make money, no its to destroy the image of obama. |
| Comment #23 by: Ravon on 19 May 2009, 22:41 UTC | reply to this comment | Um, am I the only one who can see?-That man/character/prince IS NOT WHITE...PERIOD. I'm not sure that he is 'black', however more than likely he is creole. No one is pure in this country so we should not be outraged that we have a creole prince for a black princess when the setting of the story is in NEW ORLEANS (french quarter)..actually makes perfect sense. And who is to say he isn't 'black'? Blacks come in all shades and express alot of different phenotypes (trait appearance based on genes) if the goal is to non-discriminantly promote, embrace and encourage acceptance of black and all world beauty then this is an appropriate manner to do so...I am black. My family members express skin colors ranging from that lighter than that of the Prince and darker than of the princess...and there has been no recent (100+ years) interracial mixing of the line. I hope we can all enjoy and mark this milestone for what it is, an embracing of the world's diversity specifically of blacks,depicted through film to tell a story.Thanks |
| Comment #24 by: Stacey on 27 May 2009, 23:08 UTC | reply to this comment | I totally agree with everyone who's saying this is NOT a big deal. In fact, this is a great step forward for Disney. for 75 years, Disney has been making European set princess movies. They've had an excuse not to include different races because all of the story lines they've picked up have originated in Europe. There is nothing wrong with that. However now they've decided to mix up the Frog Prince Fairy Tale (not the Princess and the Pea as Rebecca said) and they've branched out their setting... they've made it to the US (New Orleans, which is rich with black and creole history) a major step in fairytelling. This has given them the chance to create black characters for the first time. A black princess is a great idea to bring into this world, ESPECIALLY after OBAMA has just become president. And what do you all complain about? "There's no black prince". Well boohoo. Wouldn't we all have read something into this if Disney paired up ethnic backgrounds AGAIN, I believe the convo's would've been more like "What Disney, so a Black and White couple shouldn't be happening?" Don't forget that in the 60's (jungle book) Disney propaganda said that races need to stay to themselves. Well, we're in a new world were everyone is equal. So get over it. |
| Comment #25 by: Laughter on 08 Jun 2009, 14:22 UTC | reply to this comment | to the people who are critizing this movie, just to let everyone one it takes like three years to make a cartoon movie. so whoever is bringing obama into this, this movie was in the making before he was even running for president.
i think this is a great idea, the world needs to open their eyes to interracial couples. i think people need to get over this issue. if you dont approve of it or do not like the idea, dont see the movie, simple as that.
And if someone listens to the trailer and actually looks at the pictures of the prince he is OBV NOT WHITE, he has an accent first of all and you can tell from the pictures the prince is either hispanic or middle eastern or something.
i think people are making too much of a big deal about this. its made already its coming out in dec 09 and you people will most likely see it anyway, so get over it please. |
| Comment #25.1 by: karen on 08 Mar 2010, 00:11 GMT | you are right but when they fist started making the movie he was white with blonde hair and people started complaining so they changed him and made him a little darker with dark hair and the man who plays him is from brazil i figured you wanted to know |
| Comment #26 by: faith d on 14 Jun 2009, 12:44 UTC | reply to this comment | i think Disney did go out of their way to make the prince non-black because if they had just made the prince a noticeable black man people honestly no one would have such controversy over it. People would think "first black princess with first black prince, okay makes sense.", whether you're "color blind" or not.
It took Disney 75 years to make a black princess, how long must we wait for the first black prince? Many choose to settle for anyone whose non- white, but Disney doesnt have to. There are so many well known black actors they couldve used. Why didn't they?
And although they may have a good black male role model in the movie, most children only fully notice the main characters in fairytales, the prince and the princess. Disney should have a black prince because now its like saying a black man doesnt have the qualifications to be the ideal man which is what the prince is suppose to be. Black boys should feel like they are special too. Hopefully they'll make another fairytale movie where the prince is noticeably black. |
| Comment #27 by: Raven on 24 Jun 2009, 14:00 UTC | reply to this comment | Okay...a Brazilian plays his voice...did you know that Brazilians are Afro-Hispanic? Yeah, do a little research. Brazilians are more African than African Americans. People still don't get that. So if he's Brazilian he is still of African decent. DUH! Those people complaining don't want an African American princess so they'd rather have a German one. I for one don't care how they look just the fact that its been so long since I've seen a 2-d movie from Disney. And I am black. >_> |
| Comment #28 by: Nadia on 06 Aug 2009, 20:35 UTC | reply to this comment | We are all one race: human. Get over it. |
| Comment #29 by: Adriene Rucker on 11 Aug 2009, 22:04 UTC | reply to this comment | My son Kendall, created what I believe is a original Black Fairytale. kendall thought of the concept when he was in the sixth grade. I tried to contact Disney about his concept: reply: all unsolicated material would be destroyed upon reciept. Kendall's story yes, yes, has a Black King, Queen and two Princess's, and Prince. I believe Disney missed the boat with their "Frog Princess". I still believe my sons is a better concept for Black Americans. Kendall is now 19 so creativity is a wonderful thing at any age. Trying to tell the powers that be that the little guy's idea is better, is generally a David vs Goliath struggle. I just wanted to let others know there is a great Black fairytale out there. I'll will continue the fight to get my sons story seen. |
| Comment #30 by: star on 25 Aug 2009, 15:25 UTC | reply to this comment | This is rediculous!! The prince looks Creole!! I am so I think I might know what that lookas like... People just want a reason to pick at this movie..get over yourselves |
| Comment #31 by: mimi on 30 Aug 2009, 01:50 UTC | reply to this comment | im a black british girl. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM FILM. Me and my sister are so excited. People always get offended and need to compain about something. The prince looks sexy :D x |
| Comment #32 by: S.R. on 09 Sep 2009, 18:47 UTC | reply to this comment | As a young black woman I'm happy to see the prince being of another color. It shows that we come a long way and that color doesn't matter love does. We are now living in the mixed world people need to get over it, because it's no big deal. I really enjoy seeing the fact that the prince is of a different color. |
| Comment #33 by: Love Each Other on 11 Sep 2009, 20:20 UTC | reply to this comment | It really doesn't matter and if the guy is black, white, or whatever. But since everyone is being so Technical...the Prince's name is Naveen and this is an Indian name so he is not actually white at all. Now how to people feel about that? considering he is not even white. Diveristy is the way this world is today, is it so wrong to show kids that? Ignorance is what continous to hold people back. |
| Comment #34 by: anna on 17 Sep 2009, 01:36 UTC | reply to this comment | I totally agree, Naveen is indeed an Exotic name, so perhaps they were trying to give credit to more than one race group in the film. It also shows a nice aspect of the melting culture today, as many people in our time are of mixed heritage. I think racism continues because people keep trying to make things fit into stereo typical little boxes. |
| Comment #35 by: Zenzele on 27 Sep 2009, 16:44 UTC | reply to this comment | I'm so tired of people saying "it doesn't matter if the prince is black" "America is a melting pot" etc . 1) It does matter that the prince is not black or people are left wondering whether he's middle eastern/Hispanic/white.....what is wrong with him being made obviously black?!?!? 2) America is the only place where this "melting pot" theory can be used as a means by which to erase one's cultural identity. "Lets just get together and blend all the races together so that there are no differences...we're all the same and equal", NO! This amalgamation of races has no positive aspects to it. We should fight to keep the significance of our cultures. Every culture has offered so much to our world's history. Why should we be comfortable with ignoring it to adopt American culture?
I'm sorry but, color still matters folks. Disney knows that and just as the marketing rep above mentioned, these sorts of decisions about the features of a character are carefully and strategically decided. Disney knew what they were doing when they made this decision about the prince but I’m sure they'll still do great in the box office since we at least got a black princess. |
| Comment #36 by: Jessy on 26 Oct 2009, 09:28 UTC | reply to this comment | It is incredibly ridiculous that people are upset that the prince may be white. It's great that Disney is showing that interracial relations ships are a good thing. If the prince would have been black it would have been like every other Disney thing. On the Disney shows everyone is only ever dating her race. I'm quite sure that on the popular Wizards of Waverly place, none of the kids have dated someone black. Same with Suite Life of Zack and Cody. It's great that Disney is showing an interracial couple so accept it, unless you have some problem with interracial dating. |
| Comment #37 by: Mrs.Zebra on 04 Nov 2009, 08:18 UTC | reply to this comment | i totally agree people over think that way to much you have to start thinking of better things WE SHOULD be together not all the same all different that is whats beautiful...besides that is not what my kids see at all they think this is such a funny cartoon {movie} |
| Comment #38 by: Sally on 04 Nov 2009, 22:49 UTC | reply to this comment | Not a racist comment or anything...but there are hardly ANY white people in the movie. I think thats being racist towards white people.
Yes. It is possible. |
| Comment #38.1 by: cami on 04 Jan 2010, 04:22 GMT | ok... one the place is in new orleans. new orleans has a lot of black ppl and creole ppl back then there... so no disney was not being racist towards white ppl. i swear once black ppl get a movie ppl want to say oh its being racist blah blah blah. like for real are you serious. have you seen any of the other movies. not once i have i seen any black ppl in cinderella, snow white, sleeping beauty, etc. so stop tripping. and doesnt anybody remember the remake of cinderella with brandy. that was pure genius of showing interacial or not really caring of race. because brandy was cinderella and she is black. the prince was asian. his mom was black and dad was white. step mom white, with black daughter and white daughter... god mom was black. did it bother ppl with that no. so no it really doesnt matter if the prince was black or not. your forgetting this era is in the U.S. idk remember learning much about royalty being in the states. so thats why they had to make the prince foreign. it wouldnt make any since. so i wish ppl would stop making it into a race thing. if i am black and can enjoy the movie and not tripping of over the prince. then why can't yall? it annoying. stop making this into a racist situation. ALSO THE PRINCE IS NOT WHITE. CLEARLY IS SKIN IS WAY DARKER THAN THE WHITES... HIS BUTLER WAS WHITE. NOT HIM... |
| Comment #39 by: jasminew_nn on 06 Nov 2009, 19:00 UTC | reply to this comment | I feel as if the prince should have been black not white or middle eastern looking. I was really happy to find out that we were going to have an black princess finally.....because as a black woman myself I wish she would have been around when I was going up because that's all that there ever was, was white princess.....damn black people can't have anyting without any other race trying to mess up our shine and take our spot light.....this has nothing to do with white or spanish people but a black princess......and if you don't like what has been said then that's your problem!!!!!!!! |
| Comment #40 by: jasminew_nn on 06 Nov 2009, 19:18 UTC | reply to this comment | And the reason for their not being hardly any white people in this movie is because this movie is a black base movie which is pissing me off because their was no black people in belle or ariel or cinderilla or sleeping beauty or snow white. Damn I like and respect princess jasmine mainly because of her name but damn an iraq gets a princess before a african american WoW!!!!!!!!! |
| Comment #41 by: Amara on 14 Nov 2009, 16:24 UTC | reply to this comment | the prince sounded french for christ sakes..lol, plus its soooooooooooo adorable, can' wait to watch it, it looks sooo interesting, and plus they don't need to make black prince if they want to, watch maybe in some other disney movie ther maybe will be a black prince, so who cares |
| Comment #42 by: melodrama on 16 Nov 2009, 05:15 UTC | reply to this comment | OMG Take your black boys to see macho man movies. That's what's wrong with lil boys anyways, they're too efffeminate, they're not supposed to be sitting around watching fairy tales that are geared toward little girls. Fairy tale cartoons are for little girls, not littleboys. And all the black men coming on here, especially the one married to a white woman, negro please, that's the worst hypocrisy I've ever heard. Why are you going to get mad at a cartoon, which is not even real while you're sitting there in an interracial relationship? Makes no sense whatsoever, but leave it to some of thse fools with messed up logic. And the women on here, fighting for a black prince in a movie, yall are a fool. Do you think they would be sitting fighting for a black princess if the roles were reversed? Heck no!!! And this is 2009, little black girls are being raised differently than the older generation was raised. We are living in a world where the lil black girls are least likely to get a black men than other races because they are too dark. And usually the only ones that can see and appreciate their beauty happen to come from another race. So you need to accept that this is a new day and the lil black girls need to know that they have options too. Just like the lil boys know they do when they turn on a rap video. These type of movies are not for adults or boys that should be into transformers type movies and playing their playstation, so stop trying to use your kids who don't give 2 rats tuds about this movie like they were so disappointed, when this movie was in the making since 2006 and I knew back then that the prince was going to be white. So stop lying, black women don't have to be loyal to black men anymore. We are not your property. There's no such thing as the black community if both groups are not on the same page, so people mind as well forget about that because this is 2009 and if one group doesn't have loyalty to the other, heck, why do black women have to sit around twiddling their thumbs for a black prince, the heck? I don't think so! |
| Comment #43 by: black stallion on 17 Nov 2009, 06:37 UTC | reply to this comment | I think the prince is east indian or middle eastern by his name. I am happy to see a modern disney movie. I understand that the film might encourage black girls that the only way to live as a princess is by dating outside their own respective race, but people it's a movie. Although, I do see a trend in women who decided to date outside their own race; they usually choose someone caucasian. In canada we see lots of asian women who only date white guys. I do believe that disney chose to make the couple interracial on purpose and chose the interracial couple that would be most accepted in WORLD. Remember that disney does global business and in certain countries interracial dating is not as accepted. I am a black male and I understand the point of non-representation, but love is blind and I'm going to see the film anyway. |
| Comment #44 by: okay on 18 Nov 2009, 21:52 UTC | reply to this comment | Considering the fact that Disney typically has ALL white casts, "being racist toward white people" is not a valid argument. |
| Comment #45 by: superman on 23 Nov 2009, 20:34 UTC | reply to this comment | This upcoming movie is disgusting, why is Disney responding to the White House ’s pressure to brainwash people with multi cultural relationships? What if most Americans are tired to hear about it, especially with all the propaganda on TV since 2008 in commercials, shjows and movies? Isn’t there already the message everywhere we need to indoctrinate our little kids about this? Why do we need now to show a black prince going with a White princess or vice versa when we never did this? it will definietly irritate most of America which is conservative (not necessarily racist btw). Remember America voted Obama to fix the recession (where we see no result) not to promote his interracial agenda. Disney’s producers and artists are not even black it looks all too condescendent. Disney wont even call it ‘the black princess’. They have to hide the black theme under a frog. How misleading and hypocrit |
| Comment #46 by: Tamara on 23 Nov 2009, 21:21 UTC | reply to this comment | OK, so here's the thing, shes the first African American princess, great. Finally we have a
human black character in a Disney film. Now lets think back, why should we use the first
ever black Princess movie by Disney and pair her with a white or non black man. One could say it doesn't matter, and it essence, it doesn't and shouldn't. But this is America and we know it matters. There are waaay too few positive depictions of Black Love, Romance on the big screen as it is. Why not let Black kids see the first Black Princess with her Black Prince. Did Snow White, Cinderella or Pocahontas need to prove this point? NO, so why does Tiana.
I have nothing against IR relationships. I know we are people. I myself am in an IR relationship with a white guy, but that does not mean that i am disconnected or don't see and recognize the void there is for black love , positive images in the media. The Prince should be Black by all means! |
| Comment #47 by: Leah on 26 Nov 2009, 18:31 UTC | reply to this comment | Years ago, this would be a huge triumph, showing it doesn't matter about your race...now it is wrong, because the prince should be black. It shouldn't matter. While it is kind of sad that African hertigage children don't yet have a black prince, it doesn't mean they won't, and most little boys don't like playing with prince dolls anyway. Martin Luther King Jr. wanted to live in a world, where it didn't matter. You can love someone with your skin color, you can love someone with a different skin color. Plus, we have plenty of real life same color marriages to look up to which weigh more than a cartoon character. Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith for example (exuse any mispellings, please). Mr. King himself and his wife,
who still holds his memory dear is another example. Imagine if this was the 40's for example, what an outcry this film would have been. Have you ever seen Harold Lloyd's Making Whoopie, I thought it was banned because of the title. It is a very funny old film that the whole family can watch, with a love story about a white woman and a Native American. Lets embrace this film as a triumph of the begining of a world where it doesn't matter who you love, we accept them just the same. |
| Comment #48 by: Dominica on 27 Nov 2009, 17:41 UTC | reply to this comment | Why isn't Naveen black? He's the EXACT same shade of skin I am. When people look at me they do not assume I'm white. So what I'm white now when after 21 years of life I've always been considered black? This is stupid, so light skinned black people don't exist all of a sudden. I'm disgusted by how racist the black people sound who are complaining. It's racist to think that all black people are the same chocolate brown color. Oh well I guess I have to say I"m white now. |
| Comment #49 by: Sense on 28 Nov 2009, 14:08 UTC | reply to this comment | All ur comments are mute. The bottom line is Disney is in the biz to make money & I'm sure they did their mktg research only to discover that the mass population would not go to see a movie w/2 black main characters. Not racist just money. They are doing what sells tkts. They made the princess color subjective so depending on what color you are you would perceive it as yours, representing most races, selling more tkts. |
| Comment #50 by: Jenn on 28 Nov 2009, 18:04 UTC | reply to this comment | I'm sure the decision about his skin color had everything to do with storyline and character development and nothing to do with hating black men.
From what I have seen in the teasers, the story was spun around New Orleans history and folklore, which is a unique blend of origins. Making the frog "prince" linked to French royalty makes sense in the context of this setting, and also provides perfect opportunities for comic relief (a frog with a French accent trying to woo a girl? Classic - and the same device was used with Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast.) Going with the French element in character development, it would have been gratuitous to have made the character 100% black - as the character presumably has royal blood from France.
They could have made the Prince black, but it would have meant recreating the Princess and the Frog story in an entirely different way. I presume Disney did not want to sacrifice VERY clever story elements and a classic comedy device just for the purpose of making the prince black.
Ultimately the princess in this story is falling in love with a frog. A slimy, green-skinned frog. The whole point of this story is, presumably, that the romance is build independent of appearances. The fact that the prince is French or Creole and not purely African-American at the end is irrelevant to the romance, is it looks like the love story will occur before you even see what he looks like anyways. |
| Comment #51 by: jay on 29 Nov 2009, 08:01 UTC | reply to this comment | You are absolutely right. If race was not an issue they would have had no problem making the prince black and that is the bottom line. There is no getting around that no matter how you try to justify it, it is not okay. Snow White, Cinderella and all the others had mates that looked like them, now all of a sudden we have to have an interracial relationship for the fist black princess. There are plenty of images of white princessess, but only one black princess and to me it is not a positive image for our children. I will not be seeing it and hope that others will have sense not to either. Stop settling for so little we deserve more! |
| Comment #52 by: Mel on 30 Nov 2009, 18:05 UTC | reply to this comment | Aw get over it, the Prince is Brazilian. The film is based in New Orleans where there are different hues of people, Creoles, Cajuns, Haitians, Islanders. This is America everybody is mixed with something other than what they physically look like. You people need to grow up.
I remember when Pocahontas came out and every little girl had Pocahontas dolls, tee shirts, backpacks, sleepwear, bedding etc., and claiming Native Americans heritage. You guys think this is the last Disney film. I'm sure there will be plenty of other films with black characters. America is a melting pot. |
| Comment #53 by: Hatsuharu555 on 01 Dec 2009, 02:25 UTC | reply to this comment | First off, "lil boys or "black" boys can sit around and watch fairy tales because fairy tales were meant for all children to cherish. And "lil black girls" can sit around and play their playstation and play football. As you said, times have changed. So stop being a hypocrite and calling other people hypocrites. By the way, your sexist opinions are not helping. Anyways, everyone just needs to get over it. I really could care less whatever race Disney picked for the main characters to be for any of their movies. I guess any other race that is not in this movie should be upset because they aren't even in the movie, am I right? Let's just all cry and whine because no Disney movie can ever be perfect! These are changing times, and I support their decision for a Brazilian prince and an African-American princess. The idea that Disney does not believe in "black love" is the most idiotic comment I have ever heard. More than likely there are blacks working for Disney right now, creating art, storylines, directing, etc.
Everyone should get over their selfishness. It get's tiring. |
| Comment #54 by: Yo on 02 Dec 2009, 01:01 UTC | reply to this comment | I definitely don't think that they are saying black love doesn't exists. I think its a very important part of his character that he has an accent and is from a place far away. People need to chill out and maybe look at the morals the movie is displaying rather than analyzing every inch or color of it.
Im not saying that there is nothing in Disney that is racist, but im sorry Prince Naveen being a couple of shades lighter than his princess is definitely not saying black love doesn't exist.
If he was black, everyone would be complaining that Disney is saying that Black girls can't be with white princes. |
| Comment #55 by: BG on 03 Dec 2009, 17:04 UTC | reply to this comment | I'm a black girl and all of you who are making a big deal out of this amazing movie and saying it is racist are simply creating drama for the sake of it. I really commend disney for highlighting the fact that black women are gorgeous too, and that men of all races are attracted to them.
Black men have always been looked at as attractive by women of all races in the media, but you can't say the same for black women. As a result we've had a whole generation of young black girls growing up wishing their skin was lighter or hair longer. Thank goodness for Princess Tatiana. Now little boys of all races, black included will have an image in their minds that black girls are cute too. |
| Comment #56 by: Ish on 03 Dec 2009, 23:37 UTC | reply to this comment | The princess was suppose to be a "maid" at first. Then Disney bowed down to pressure and made her a restaurant owner. Disney is full of it. My black children will continue to watch Dora and Diego. I guess that is as close as it gets. |
| Comment #57 by: B. Altman on 09 Dec 2009, 07:30 UTC | reply to this comment | I don't think this would be a problem if Disney's own past were different. They have always, always paired love interest with the same ethic group. Of course Pocahontas is the exception. Which was based on a true story. So it is understandable why her man was white. Blacks are the last group to get top billing of a Disney film. Why does the sister have to represent the melting pot? The bad guy in this film is a black man. Her prince should have been a black man. Period. Disney wants us to believe that the alligator in this move can sing and dance but they can't create a black prince. C'mon Man. |
| Comment #58 by: princess_charming on 10 Dec 2009, 00:28 UTC | reply to this comment | I, as many other girls, grew up with the disney princesses. I never thought about the fact that they were chinese/black/native american/white/russian/spanish/middle eastern. They were great role models for me as a young girl. They were all beautiful, intelligent, and strong willed. I didn't really care much for the princes. They're pretty boring and I was too young to understand the romantic aspects of the stories anyways. As long as Tiana is as good a role model as the past disney princesses (and I'm sure she is), she can marry a martian for all I care.
And this is a children's movie. Children won't care about the race of the characters. The only thing they're going to be crying for is the doll set. |
| Comment #58.1 by: B. Altman on 10 Dec 2009, 16:52 GMT | Yes they were all beautiful, intelligent, and strong willed. Great role models yes. But their man was from the same ethnic group. Oh except Tiana. What is missing from this debate is the understanding that throughout the history of America Black love has been given no value. It is an after thought. It is not a thought. And Disney has proven that once again. And when you have grown up seeing this time after time you can't ignore it. The bad guy in this movie is a BLACK MAN? Her love interest is white? This is not acceptable. |
| Comment #58.2 by: -_- on 16 Dec 2009, 00:53 GMT | MR. B. Altman. That's right sir. THAT'S RIGHT. I'm addressing YOU! The princee in this movie is IN NO WAY WHITE AT ALL!! AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THE VILLIAN WAS BLACK?!?!?!?! Because it was set in New Orleans. And what color are the voodoo priests down there?! HUH?! That's right, BLACK. So there. Take that. And You're welcome. |
| Comment #58.3 by: B. Altman on 16 Dec 2009, 16:53 GMT | Wow, You called me Mr. and Sir back to back. Thanks. |
| Comment #59 by: Dre on 12 Dec 2009, 02:10 UTC | reply to this comment | Please people color does matter. If it doesnt then why wont Cindarella, Snow White, The Little Mermaid or any other white female character be romantically involved with a Black man?? Why are interacial romances in movies 99.9% white men and black women but not the other way around?? Color does indeed matter. |
| Comment #60 by: beatrice on 13 Dec 2009, 04:42 UTC | reply to this comment | I think the fact that the prince is white (or hispanic) makes the story even more open minded. If the prince were black, then one could argue and complain that african americans are only allowed to date each other. I think it is fabulous that the couple is mixed! |
| Comment #60.1 by: darrell on 12 Feb 2010, 04:32 GMT | Yes , u are absolutely right and I am tire of images of Black worman (Tiana's mother and Tiana) being in servant positions. Why could the rich people be black. Why should our kids have these images of being the servants for white people. Children recognize this and grow up to a inferiority complex. Like i did and many many blacks do until it is recognize by the indiividual. |
| Comment #61 by: Tydie nS on 13 Dec 2009, 14:09 UTC | reply to this comment | I was in a great mood today imagining taking my twin 3 yr old twin girls and my 17 year old to see this movie. I got a call from a girlfriend who told me the Prince isnt black. I immediately opened my laptot to investigate and I find myself here. So I will take a moment and try to explain why it is a big deal.
It is a big deal because little black boys need examples of being commited and in love. OUR children are impressionable. ALL children need to see themselves in postitive-potential roles. Black boys role models are few and far in between. Film and media images of black men in this country more time that not are negative. Our children have waited hundreds of years for positive representation and this is a slap in the face.
I wish non blacks would stop taking on the position that blacks are whinning! Like you we want our children mentally healthy and with a self esteem that will serve them well through their lives. We black women will obviously continue to instill esteem in our young men by ourselves without the compassion or understanding of our fellow Americans. |
| Comment #61.1 by: -_- on 16 Dec 2009, 00:46 GMT | Okay first of all someone should slap YOU in the face if you are relying on cartoons to instill moral value in YOUR children, that should be YOUR job. And maybe that's what the WHITE people are doing right. Just by the fact of YOU getting offened by the skin color of these CARTOONS just proves that YOU'RE the kind of person that keeps racism alive! If you had actually been open minded and looked at the white characters YOU would have noticed that THEY were all presented as moronic in some way, but WHITE people aren't complaining, are THEY? THEY went to see this movie purely out of their love for Disney and the NON-COLOR RELATED magic it brings to children's hearts. YOU should be ashamed.
p.s. If you're wondering, I'm black. |
| Comment #62 by: ashwipe on 16 Dec 2009, 00:15 UTC | reply to this comment | I think that people should just shut up and watch the effing movie. Racism is still around because the African Americans keep bringing it up. Honestly. It is beyond ridiculous. You should all be thanking us because we brought you over here! If it weren't for us you would still be in Africa playing with tumble weeds. Don't get me wrong I love black people. I have friends who are black. And THEY don't even like black people. So quit complaining about Disney being racist. Because they're not, they're amazing and magical and the epitome of love and happiness. YOU poeple are the racist ones. I mean seriously, we give you your own Disney Princess and you're still not happy. So all I have to say is you're welcome, you know for allowing you to come over here with us. :) |
| Comment #62.1 by: cami on 04 Jan 2010, 04:40 GMT | ok what you said was racist. you may not have been trying to but you were being racist. stop saying african americans bring it back up. not saying its not true. but other racist do it to. there are white ppl on here complaining that the prince is not black..... and how dare you say yall brought us over here. wtf is our problem. that comment could have stayed to yourself. you rrally need to watch what you say. TO ALL. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THE PRINCE IS NOT BLACK. PERSONALLY IM THINKING THE PRINCE IS FRENCH. AND NOT ONCE DID I THINK TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PRINCE WHY? THATS BECAUSE NO ONE CARES FOR THEM. ALL I HEAR IS TALK ABOUT DISNEY PRINCESSES NEVER DISNE PRINCES. SO WHY ARE YALL MAKING A FUSS OVER THE GUYS. DONT NO ONE TALK ABOUT THEM. AT ALL. AT DISNEY WORLD THEY HAVE A SHOP TO DRESS LIKE THE PRINCESSES. DO THEY HAVE A SHOP FOR THE BOYS TO DRESS LIKE THE PRINCES... UMMM NO!!! WHY? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID DONT NO ONE CARE FOR THEM. SO STOP MAKING A BIG DEAL OVER NOTHING. ITS ANNOYING. I LOVED THE MOVIE. I THINK ITS ONE OF THE BEST. BESIDES BEAUTY AND THE BEAST. SO STOP ALL THE RACISTCOMMENTS. THE TALK ABOUT THE PRINCE. ANDTO THE PARENTS WHO ARE LIKE OH IM NOT GOING TO SEE CUZ THE PRINCE AINT BLACK. WOW THATS A WAY TO SHOW YOUR KIDS HOW TO ACT. WHO GIVES A FLYING DUCK. THE MOVIE IS GREAT. ITS A GOOD LOVE STORY. GO SEE IT AND ENJOY IT |
| Comment #63 by: UGH on 16 Dec 2009, 00:39 UTC | reply to this comment | HEY! I'm pissed too!! I'm pissed that the first AMERICAN princess is BLACK. Why couldn't she be white? HUH?! I WANT A WHITE AMERICAN PRINCESS DISNEY! So there. YOU SHOULD ALL BE GLAD SHE WASN'T IN THE FIELD'S PICKIN COTTON! So just shut up and be glad for what Disney gave you.....FREAKS. -_-
p.s. I'm black too. |
| Comment #63.1 by: B. Altman on 16 Dec 2009, 16:21 GMT | Hey, you just keep being glad about what the white man gives you. Don't forget the salt and pepper. |
| Comment #64 by: B. Altman on 16 Dec 2009, 16:47 UTC | reply to this comment | To all these people making a point to say they are black at the end of their comments, stop it. We already know that blacks have a segment that self-hate. They believe in the idea that we are not equal. Words like House Negro, Sell Out and Uncle Tom, are just a few names to describe folks like you. The bottom line is, you don't know what in the Hell you are talking about. And when grown folks are having a real debate you should shut your mouth. Move On. We are not looking for punch lines. This situation matters to the other Black people. Us. |
| Comment #65 by: kindra on 17 Dec 2009, 23:26 UTC | reply to this comment | We have a problem in america with black families having a pure black american being shown as stable and for black women to find love and respect for black-men because of slavery..How dear white producers do this-Our kids need obama and then more to eliminate the white rule over what they have been doing to our race..White Guy focus..Its sad..It draws black men against white producers. |
| Comment #66 by: UGH on 18 Dec 2009, 00:45 UTC | reply to this comment | Well you know what? It shouldn't matter because it's no big deal. You're just proving my point that black people make a big deal about everylittle thing. |
| Comment #67 by: nuria on 19 Dec 2009, 13:14 UTC | reply to this comment | @ UGH: sorry you should have said black american make a big deal about everylittle thing.
a lot of black americans have a tendancy to believe that THEY are The Black community and that, we, all think like them...
They should travel outside of the US and see the world as it is, and that it's just an animation, if you don't like, well don't see it but for god sake stop complaining for such stupid thing, |
| Comment #68 by: David on 19 Dec 2009, 22:37 UTC | reply to this comment | We must stop looking to White America to "Get it right" when it comes to Black issues. There are several Black filmmakers and Black media companies and Black money out there that could have been invested in movies African Americans want to see. Of course Blacks will continue to be seen as villains or portrayed negatively because the "Post racial" America people speak of does not exist. There is also racisism within the Black culture amongst light and dark skin, so how can you expect Disney to "get it right"? |
| Comment #69 by: GRANDMOTHER on 30 Dec 2009, 01:15 UTC | reply to this comment | LET THE MOVIE BE WHAT IT IS A FAIRYTALE. WHO CARES WHAT THE PRINCE LOOKS LIKE? GET OVER IT!! HOW WOULD YOU HAVE HIME LOOK.? HOW WOULD YOU HAVE TIANA LOOK? THIS IS A NEW AGE AND DAY. WATCH YOURSELF ONE DAY ALL THE RACES WILL BE MIXED AND WE WILL BE KNOWN AS THE HUMAN RACE IN GOD'S IMAGE!!! |
| Comment #70 by: mace on 01 Jan 2010, 10:04 UTC | reply to this comment | someone said that no one is pure in ameriaca. that nonsense,ask the recen t asian you just came of teh boats or africans or many europeans,even some african americans who are not recent africans.by the way in south africa is free so the prince could have come from there are another african country.anyway everyone in america is not mixed racially and to me mixed means half and half so most folks in america are not mixed,not even african americans. |
| Comment #71 by: Donald Duck on 01 Jan 2010, 17:36 UTC | reply to this comment | As an African American, I'm proud of Disney's ground-breaking efforts to have a black princess. Disney has had a history of racist, stereotypical cartoons against blacks and other people of color a few decades. Nevertheless, little black girls who have supported disney for years now can see someone who looks like them. It doesn't matter to me that the prince is supposedly of a different race. I actually thought he might have been creole - a mixture of black, Native American, and French ancestry as there are may people of such in south Louisiana. I too also thought he was Hispanic and perhaps he is because a Hispanic man did the voiceover. But whatever he is this is still a good effort on Disney's part. Cartoons have traditonally not presented interacial couples so this is great. And who says this is the first and last black princess. Perhaps the next disney black princess can have a black prince. As a matter of fact, it should. That would be nice for young black males. As much as I loved Disney films growing up, it would have been great to have had black prince to identify with. But for now I'm satifised with The Princess and the Frog. |
| Comment #72 by: Kelly on 02 Jan 2010, 17:22 UTC | reply to this comment | "Black Love"? Are you stupid? What the hell is "black love"? Of course black people can love black people and there can be countless combinations of races loving one another. "Black love." Pff.
I think it's more politically correct than having a prince with the same skin color because THEN all the other easily upset outrage-mongers would say, "Ohhh, so only a black man can love a black woman?"
Damn, people. You gotta make a struggle out of everything.
At least Donald Duck's using his head up there. :) |
| Comment #73 by: darrell on 12 Feb 2010, 04:21 UTC | reply to this comment | Would disney let a white princess get married to a black man. Images of Tiana's mother in the white rich mans home is a image I would not like my child to see. Yes it exist and always exist. How come this wasn't a black rich man's home. Images like this for a child lets them know that white people are always at the top of the food chain. Kids understand this .. believe it. Otherwise the film was OK but for black adults. |
| Comment #74 by: Karen on 07 Mar 2010, 23:48 UTC | reply to this comment | Obama is biracial not full black people have a confusion thinking the prince might be even mixed well that is what Barack Obama is |
| Comment #75 by: Karen on 07 Mar 2010, 23:59 UTC | reply to this comment | why that wouldn't be reality the real world are becoming more open minded. And on top of that back in the day that was one place you could be together if you were of different races. |
| Comment #76 by: Karen on 08 Mar 2010, 00:43 UTC | reply to this comment | I am a little bothered by the majority of comments on here. I will say, why is it such a problem to see interracial relationships? my husband and I are an interracial couple with two beautiful biracial children. The sad thing is basically that none of you people above unless you are mixed or in an interracial relationship can possibly understand that the people who deal with more racism now days are interracial couples and biracial children. I mean seriously how many biracial children have such identity problems because of people who try to make them feel like they have to be what they look like the most. I mean how many of you people on here kept putting Barack Obama in the African American commuity just Black well he is not he is mixed and there is nothing wrong with that. Do you know when people white or black put things like this on here I mean these racist remarks towards the prince who is actually played by a brazillian man whose name is Bruno Campos from nip/tuck not white. You are putting down the interracial community and making biracial children think what is wrong with this disney couple's being interracial my parents are and then you might make them feel as if they should be ashamed of part of who they are which they shouldn't be but society does this all of the time. And if you stop being so closed minded maybe more biracial children can feel more proud of who they are. I know this beautiful young mixed girl who doesn't like being part black and I can not figure that out for the life of me and the other way I know a lot more mixed children who are ashamed to be part white because of how society puts them into catergories which is racism if you ask me. I think this movie not is only great for the african american community but is also great for the interracial community and the mixed community to see that there is nothing wrong with being who they are and they can love everything they are and appreciate both their parent's no matter what races they are. And I truly hope you people who can not see mixing of races up there that you are not christian's because God does not see race like that and that would be sad to claim being a christian and be bothered by races mixing. I know this is suppose to be about the movie but to be honest this is more then the movie it is seeing how are society truly is and you make me feel sad. |
| Comment #77 by: Karen on 08 Mar 2010, 00:49 UTC | reply to this comment | By the way to my last comment I do applaud the open minded good spirited people on here |
| Comment #78 by: karen on 08 Mar 2010, 16:22 UTC | reply to this comment | some of my comments aren't put under some of people I posted them under so ignore my first couple then lol. |
| Comment #79 by: Barb on 21 Mar 2010, 00:53 UTC | reply to this comment | The prince is from BRAZIL!!!!!!!! Enough said. He is NOT white & he is NOT black!!!! Ok, everyone feel better??????
If it matters, I am white & my husband is black and I don't care if the princess was polka-dot & the prince was blue with stripes, we took our BI-RACIAL daughter to see it!!! It is a movie!!! A cartoon!!!! There are more important things to worry about. Period. |
| Comment #80 by: cheryl on 22 Mar 2010, 00:33 UTC | reply to this comment | Oh Give me a f----n break people, people, people!!!!! This is a DISNEY film for goodness sake....The producers would have been damned if they did or damned if they didnt!! I am so sick of the race card being pulled into everything!!!!! Now a childrens film about a tale of the Louisianian culture (were from here) has to turn into a racial issue....Is reverend Sharptin or whatever his name is gonna get involved in this too, like everything else?????
What is this country comming to where we cant even let kids (who by the way could give a sh-t about race) enjoy their films, and the stupid over hyper sensitive adults ruin everything.
Get over yourselves and get on with life before its over like that lil firefly!!!!!!!!!! |
| Comment #80.1 by: Carly on 06 Apr 2011, 22:59 GMT | Your are so right. I just watched this movie with a friend and I thought it was great! I honestly can't believe that some people are in such an uproar about it, it's just a movie! While watching it, we were just focused on the story, not on what race any of the characters were. Children don't see race as such a huge issue, racism is taught to them, not from movies, but from the adults around them that are so hung up on it. I grew up playing with white barbie dolls with blond hair, and watching disney movies with mostly white main characters. Did my self-esteem suffer? Nope. I know who I am and I know my worth. It wasn't taught to me from some disney movie, it was taught to me from my parents! Do these people really think that black girls are gonna come away from this movie thinking "Oh, the only way for me to be a REAL princess is to find someone who isn't black!" or black boys, "Awww man, I can't be a prince cos I'm black!" ?. Some people need to get a grip... |
| Comment #81 by: anonymous on 27 Mar 2010, 21:14 UTC | reply to this comment | I saw the movie and thought it was great. Do African-Americans have to complain about everything?! I'm not even white and I'm saying this. You feel you have to attack everything, even a insignificant Disney movie, God! I don't know if you've heard, but the Jews have suffered many more atrocities than you, 7 million killed in the most disgusting absurd ways, yet I don't see them complaining about how they were treated. What happened to your people was wrong yes, but get over it! And maybe when your people stop dropping out of school and committing heinous crimes, you can actually complain about something! |
| Comment #82 by: meg on 08 Apr 2010, 01:18 UTC | reply to this comment | I dont think that disney did not mae the Prince black to show that black men are not good enought o be a prince, or them to be good enough as a couple.
I believe that it can be a good thing to have a nother race, he is not, all white, but with a hint of Spanish, i think it shows that mixture of cultural backgrounds in a relationship can end happily ever as well. |
| Comment #83 by: Marie on 06 May 2010, 00:02 UTC | reply to this comment | OK, so I found this site looking to see who plays the non-white prince. And I gotta say, this is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever come across. Who cares if the prince is white, black, yellow, or pink with blue polka dots. Its a children's movie, not something to start a war over. Personally myself, I loved it! Went to see it in the theatre, bought it the day it came out, and have watched it more times than my daughter has! My daughter doesn't see a black princess. She only sees a princess. Just like she didn't see jasmine, or mulan, or Pocahontas wasn't white. She loves princesses, we have every Disney princess movie ever made (except beauty and the beast) and we both enjoy watching them. Maybe instead of making this about color, people should make this about what a good movie it was. It had a very nice story, awesome graphics, no smutty adult type jokes like almost every children's movie has now a days, and it proved that no matter what color you are, true love and dreams really do come true. And I'm really not seeing where everyone thinks the prince is white. He looks mixed. And at the end where they show his parents, they aren't den white! Cinderella, sleeping beauty, belle, snow white, the were white. How do we know he isn't Just a light skinned black man? I've seen plenty of those.
Oh, and for the person waaay above who asked why not put Cinderella with a brotha? Most of Disney's older princess movies were taken from fairy tales, like the Grimm brothers stories. Perhaps that's why.
Also, who knows what Disney has in store for us next? Who is to say they wont have a black and white couple in the next one? Would it bother me? Not the least bit. Color doesn't matter to most people, but it obviously does to some. Why don't they make a white girl and hispanic guy? I'm white, my husband is half white and half Mexican, so why not make one like that? Maybe they will and maybe they wont, but who really cares?!?!?!?
Oh, and they did show a very wonderful black couple. True, her dad wasn't in it very long, but he made a lasting impression. And if you really want your children to see a loving couple, no matter what race, look to yourself and not a movie. Your actions affect them more than a cartoon, which most kids know aren't real. |
| Comment #83.1 by: trinity on 19 Aug 2010, 15:50 GMT | --
And if you really want your children to see a loving couple, no matter what race, look to yourself and not a movie. Your actions affect them more than a cartoon, which most kids know aren't real.
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AGREED 100% |
| Comment #84 by: jacqui montero on 07 Jul 2010, 02:42 UTC | reply to this comment | i thought the dude was latino. |
| Comment #85 by: Jo on 08 Jul 2010, 07:27 UTC | reply to this comment | There is only one non-black princess. Her name is Princess Jasmine. If you are referring to Mulan, she is not a princess. There are 6 actual Disney Princesses. 4 White, 1 Arabic, and now 1 black. |
| Comment #85.1 by: trinity on 19 Aug 2010, 15:49 GMT | pocahantas is also considered a princess, and she is not white.
and thuogh mulan is not technically a princess, she is included in the disney princess collection and on the princess posters.
the princess collection:
snow white - white, presumably european
cinderella - white, presumably european
sleeping beauty - white, presumably european
ariel - white, and a mermaid
mulan - chinese
pocahantas - "native american" / "indian"
tiana - black, american
belle - white, french |
| Comment #86 by: trinity on 19 Aug 2010, 15:46 UTC | reply to this comment | what exactly is "black love"? love is love, and to teach your kids otherwise is the real injustice. kids need to see that black love still exists? no, kids need to see that good things happen to good people, and that includes love. i am white, my husband is black, and our daughters are adopted from china, but you don't hear us complaining that disney hasn't created a family that looks like ours. take it for what it is - a fairy tale.
(besides, the prince doesn't look all that white anyway. not that it should matter) |
| Comment #87 by: HatesRacialDivide on 02 Sep 2010, 23:56 UTC | reply to this comment | You know what I think...Disney shouldn't have bothered making a black Princess because now they're getting a load of crap for it. May I point out that the disney princesses were drawn according to where the story originated from. Cinderella: Germany - blonde hair, blue eyes.
Pocahontahs - Native American
Jasmine - Arabian
Ariel - Danish, pale skin
Mulan - China
The frog prince is a german story.
Snow white - Germany, pale skin and dark hair: vital part of the story.
What the hell is wrong with you?? I've never heard of a white person called Naveen!! It's an Indian name, and could I remind you that there are no Indian princes or princesses. I was actuall really happy when I saw it wasn't going to be your typical black girl black guy kind of film. Also did the Native Americans get annoyed when Pocahontahs went off with John Smith instead of the other guy? No. |
| Comment #88 by: Princesswithanattitude334 on 07 Sep 2010, 05:39 UTC | reply to this comment | See from what I saw of the prince he's more hispanic then anything...his name is Naveen which is actually Indian if that's what they were going for...at any rate it's a children's movie. when I was young I didn't pay enough attention to know the difference in the skin color of the princesses. Jasmine was no diffrent from Cinderella except that she had darker hair. Little girls will not watch this and grow up to think they can only marry white men. Get over it. I doubt it will change anyones life enough to be a problem. |
| Comment #89 by: miss real on 21 Oct 2010, 05:03 UTC | reply to this comment | Get a life people, it was a great movie and if anything I think it was great that he feel in love with Tianna. This movie showed no rasism and I loved that. Why does everything have to ne about white and black,it showed whar the real world is today jerks |
| Comment #90 by: Andy on 01 Dec 2010, 06:19 UTC | reply to this comment | I realize this is late but I think some of these comments are ridiculous. It is sad that so many people are on here complaining about such a trivial matter. No matter what is done some people CANNOT be satisfied. Prince Naveen is not white, as a matter of fact no one even knows what he is. Point is Disney is finally showcasing biracial relationships and I applaud them. What is "black love" anyway? My children know what love is and it never involved any color of the rainbow! The first thing my daughter picked at the toy store was a Tiana doll. My children are mixed-mostly hispanic but partly white therefore very light skinned. She doesn't notice that the doll is black. BECAUSE CHILDREN DON'T CARE!! It's the ignorant parents who make race a big deal. These parents teach it to their children (and they are found in every race) and those children continue until they find themselves arguing over a Disney movie. The worst part is the majority of the complainers probably did not watch movie to see the beautiful messages the film had. And to the people asking why Cinderella never married a "brotha"? Because it was a different time!! We do not live in that era anymore... or at least most of us don't and that is why we don't understand why Naveen's race is such a big deal. Sorry to rant but my point is I am happy with Disney's decision to make this movie. And hopefully people finally put race aside and let love take precedence then maybe we'll all be so mixed that color really will not matter anymore. |
| Comment #91 by: Yoyo on 09 Jun 2011, 00:42 UTC | reply to this comment | This is such a * idea. Do people even know what racism is? No, my question is, do people even like this movie for what it is? It seems like people always have to argue with racism. There is no racism in this movie whatsoever.
Now I agree, when I first saw this movie, I would have liked a black prince. But then I thought "so what?" Then I realized I didn't even care about that idea, I just liked the movie for the movie. |
| Comment #92 by: Disneyfan83 on 18 Aug 2011, 23:09 UTC | reply to this comment | I think people read to much into things. I love the movie and it all works out that the prince is from a different country and was not"white" but of another "ethinic background." Its New Orleans and there was pleanty of "white" and "colored" people. The Dr. made a great villian and if he was "white" I don't think it would of been the same, you don't see many "white" voodoo doctors, do you? My girls and my self love the move! Kids don't see race, they see good people and bad. Everybody needs to keep that in mind. |
| Comment #93 by: 356 on 24 Oct 2011, 10:20 UTC | reply to this comment | "Sad that he's white"? What the hell is wrong with you??? You most be really sick in the head you missed the point of the story. Your a sad person that you are so bothered by the color of peoples skin. I feel really sorry for you. Thats all I have to say. Just sick. |
| Comment #94 by: hahahah on 25 Nov 2011, 03:49 UTC | reply to this comment | it is an amazing movie love it!! but i think they should have bot been balck. |
| Comment #95 by: steph on 04 Dec 2011, 02:08 UTC | reply to this comment | THE WHOLE POINT WAS THAT HE WAS FOREIGN AND DIFFERENT FROM THE PEOPLE LIVING IN LOUISIANA!!!! IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH "black love"!! This isn't hometown boy falsl in love with hometown girl! This is exotic boy meets hometown girl, and he very obviously wasn't white. And of COURSE the vodoo guy is black, it is New Orleans in the 1920s!!!! the only real racism here comes from the people who see racism EVERYWHERE. come on people... | |
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