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October 27th, 2010, 14:43 GMT · By Silviu Stahie

Canonical Will Not Abandon Java, Says Mark Shuttleworth

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The founder of Ubuntu, Mark Shuttleworth, has announced at UDS that despite the recent decision of Steve Jobs and Apple to move away from the Java environment, Canonical will continue to consider Java a first grade development platform.

Besides announcing a new MacBook Air and a new OS, Apple also made a much more important announcement, which went a little under the radar.

“As of the release of Java for Max OS X 10.6 Update 3, the version of Java that is ported by Apple, and that ships with Max OS X, is deprecated. Developers should not rely on the Apple-supplied Java runtime being present in future versions of Mac OS X”.

Furthermore, any software using Java will not be accepted in Mac App Store.

Jobs explained in an email, for a “big fan,” that because of the difference between the release cycle of Oracle and Apple, they are forced to use older versions. James Gosling, “father” of Java made a liar out of Steve Jobs after he declared that his assertion regarding the release cycles is false.

Java developers are now forced to look for other platforms, and one of them is Ubuntu. Mark Shuttleworth said in the press conference call, during the Ubuntu Developer Summit in Florida, that Java will continue to be a “first class development environment”.

When asked about the recent deprecation of Java, by Apple, Shuttleworth said: “Java is a first class development environment for us, Elipse is a first class citizen on the Ubuntu desktop. I think Java developers will find that they can be comfortable in an Ubuntu environment and we have no plans to deprecate or move away from Java”.

Mark Shuttleworth even pointed out that IBM is one of the biggest supporters of Java and they develop commercial grade applications based on the Oracle’s programming language, specifically for Ubuntu.

Right now Java is riding the “train” of uncertainty with another Apple rejected platform, Flash, and no one can really tell what the future holds for either of them.

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Comment #1 by: fact_checker on 27 Oct 2010, 18:20 UTC reply to this comment

Gosling did not make a "liar" out of Jobs. Jobs was talking about Java for desktops, not servers. The counterexamples Gosling offered were companies doing their own Java port for their servers. Apparently, Gosling did not realize Jobs was talking about desktops. For the desktop, everyone except Apple gets their Java from Oracle or uses OpenJDK. Only Apple was doing their own port, and it was indeed always about a release behind Oracle's version.

Comment #1.1 by: Who_checks_the_fact_checker on 27 Oct 2010, 19:56 GMT

Its totally on Apple that they take so long to "optimize" the desktop to work with the Mac OS. Its not like they don't have enough developers at Apple that they could release 'their' version of Java right after everybody else does, so they're not a whole version behind.


Comment #2 by: Pawe on 28 Oct 2010, 06:42 UTC reply to this comment

Thanks for the news! I didn't know Java was in trouble, at least potentially. I'm very happy to hear that Flash is in trouble, though. The sooner it goes away, the better for web development. If only IE wanted to go away too :)


Comment #3 by: Ron on 29 Oct 2010, 15:32 UTC reply to this comment

I think the only going away is Apple and I think in near future apple will be a company of handheld devices and other such products. Their desktop computers along with their so called OSX will gone for good.


Comment #4 by: TooMuchKoolAid on 02 Nov 2010, 23:00 UTC reply to this comment

A "much more important" announcement?? Right..


Comment #5 by: ArticleBias on 02 Nov 2010, 23:02 UTC reply to this comment

"Java developers are now forced to look for other platforms" Nobody is "forced" to look anywhere. If you want Java, install it. Please don't write misleading articles!

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