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- Ubuntu 12.10 Daily Build
Steve Langasek from Canonical announced a few days ago, on August 27th, a proposal to drop the Alternate CD ISO images starting with the upcoming Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) operating system.
Four days later, on August 30th, the Alternate CDs were gone from the daily builds and will not be available at the launch of Ubuntu 12.10 Beta 1.
Some of the Alternate CD "hard to live without" features, such as disk encryption, were already implemented in the Desktop CD version. But some other nice ones, such as RAID setup, were dropped!
"The good news is that this means today we already have support in ubiquity for cryptsetup and LVM in the guided partitioner, with manual partitioning support soon to follow.
"The somewhat bad news is that we will not have support for RAID setup in ubiquity this cycle,
" Steve Langasek said in the mailinglist announcement
Well, Canonical makes the rules and we need to abide!
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|Comment #1 by: buntfu on 01 Sep 2012, 00:35 UTC|| reply to this comment|
What a terrible idea if this affects the rest of the line of ubuntu distros, particularly Lubuntu, certainly an area that may still require the alternate cd on a few occasions. Besides that I've always like the alternate install.... its just faster and you seem to be able to dive into it a lot more as far as options and control....
|Comment #2 by: johnzend on 01 Sep 2012, 05:36 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Like the way ubuntu is growing... its what linux needs... but * , i'lll miss the alternate cd. For now I'll go with the mini.iso from ubuntu although its more work to get it booting from a usb drive.
|Comment #3 by: danne on 01 Sep 2012, 07:08 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Does ubiquity support installing in text mode? It's very common for me that Ubuntu doesn't work with my graphics card without proprietary drivers, so I have to do a text mode install and load the drivers from the command line. I always use the alternate installer for this, how would I do it without it?
|Comment #4.1 by: Marius Nestor on 06 Sep 2012, 08:28 GMT|
Yes, they did! From the release notes of Beta 1: "There are no longer any alternate images for Ubuntu desktop images."
|Comment #5 by: Sam B on 01 Sep 2012, 17:41 UTC|| reply to this comment|
There's still time before the final release. Maybe someone'll manage to add it to the Desktop CD? I don't know much about RAID, unfortunately, but the mailinglist item seemed to say it can still be set up post-install.
|Comment #6 by: bill32164 on 01 Sep 2012, 20:56 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Getting more like windoze with every release. Next we will be charged hundreds of dollars for each release. I guess this is why I have been using other releases more and more with each release of Ubuntu.
|Comment #7 by: syncdram on 02 Sep 2012, 11:33 UTC|| reply to this comment|
looking forward to that day when canonical final drops itself
|Comment #8 by: Anwar on 03 Sep 2012, 15:31 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Don't know whether this was necessary. alternate cd's are handy on some occassions
|Comment #9 by: user on 03 Sep 2012, 15:39 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I have stopped using the standard Ubuntu distributions long time ago and I started to use other linux distributions. Instead of following their own path Cannonical is doing the same as some other companies that creates operating systems, forgetting that this is for the users after all and not only for their own profit.
And no, we do not need to abide. We are the one who will decide if we are going to use a product like Ubuntu or not. As long as there are alternatives we are free to decide what to use. I hope that freedom will continue to exist for a long time.
|Comment #10 by: Alex on 03 Sep 2012, 16:20 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I need the alternate cd for my laptop because I have a big laptop with 2 HDDs with software RAID 0 for Ubuntu. Guess I won't be installing 12.10. At least I they have 5 years to implement RAID in ubiquity
|Comment #10.1 by: Marius Nestor on 04 Sep 2012, 09:51 GMT|
You will be able to install it via Ubuntu Netboot, but it's a kinda complicated.
|Comment #11 by: Mattchewie on 03 Sep 2012, 19:49 UTC|| reply to this comment|
I'm not sure what took them so long to get LVM, RAID etc in the graphical installer anyway.
|Comment #12 by: tumbleweed on 07 Sep 2012, 15:49 UTC|| reply to this comment|
> Well, Canonical makes the rules and we need to abide!
That's a little unfair. It was an Ubuntu release team decision, not a Canonical decision. And there was an open discussion about it on ubuntu-devel.
(I'm an Ubuntu Release Team member who doesn't work for Canonical)
|Comment #13 by: fleetafoot on 20 Oct 2012, 16:44 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Does this mean that an existing 12.04 installation with RAID cannot be upgraded to 12.10?
|Comment #14 by: felix on 05 Dec 2012, 22:50 UTC|| reply to this comment|
Ugh, I found the text-based install option very useful for laptops whose finicky displays were not handled by the standard ISO!
|Comment #15 by: mike on 31 Dec 2012, 21:40 UTC|| reply to this comment|
You can still download an older alternate CD, and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
|Comment #16 by: l00ns on 06 Jan 2013, 16:09 UTC|| reply to this comment|
My netbook wont install except with the alternate install so this is bad news.
|Comment #16.1 by: george on 23 Mar 2013, 23:39 GMT|
Yes this is bad and uncalled for.
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