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June 14th, 2010, 07:50 GMT · By

Apple Forums Scream, ‘Safari 5 Is a Disaster’

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Safari 5.0, the latest version of Apple’s web browser, is causing extreme frustration to Mac users worldwide, going by a number of forum posts Softpedia has recently stumbled upon. Users are reporting hangs, freezing, crashing, high CPU temperatures, etc. For some, the new Safari won’t even launch.

“How do I switch back to Safari 4.0 from 5.0?” the first cry Softpedia has found over at Apple’s Discussions forum reads. “Since I downloaded 5.0 yesterday, downloads have slowed sometimes to a complete halt, the computer has frozen, the loading indicator continues to move and other annoying activity has taken place,” Patricia Cornell claims. “I now have to use Firefox exclusively. This is the worst experience I have had since switching from Windows to Mac,” the disappointed customer writes.

Apple Discussions posters have the option to include system information with their posts, something Patricia opted for when she signed up to use the forum. According to the information she discloses about her Apple devices, Patricia owns a 20" iMac Aluminum 2.4 GHz running Mac OS X (10.5.2). The computer has 500 GB of storage, 2GB of RAM, a Wireless Mighty Mouse, and a Wireless Keyboard. To be noted that Safari 5 requires Mac OS X 10.5.8 to run on Leopard, and Mac OS X 10.6.2 to run on Snow Leopard machines.

While the old OS version may be at fault in Patricia’s case, the same thing cannot be said about forum user D.A.M.O.N, who claims he’s running Mac OS X 10.6.3 on a “MacBook 2.0 (White)” and is experiencing similar issues, following the update to Safari 5. “I'm having the same problem as you,” he writes. “I'm running 10.6.3 and Safari 5 is running horribly slow. I can literally go downstairs to grab a cool, tasty beverage before web pages finish loading. It's ridiculous. I'd like to know how to downgrade also.”

Poster markg0410 chimes in saying, “I used my Time Machine to return to Safari 4.0.5 and now THAT version crashes. Hmm, I guess the guys and girls at Apple were too busy trying to figure out how to make a thinner iPhone…” This customer also appears to be running an unsupported Mac OS version - his system information reads “Mac OS X (10.6).”


Apple Discussions (Topic : Safari 5.0 is a disaster)


“Since the update to Safari 5.0 last night, my MacBook has frozen with beachball of death requiring hard boot a dozen times,” johnj-nj shares with fellow Apple Discussions users. “Today it was so frequent I downloaded Google Chrome and am using that until there is a patch fix update to Safari,” he claims.


Apple Discussions (Topic : Thanks for the update, Safari 5 is garbage in my opinion!!!!!)


Over at the MacRumors forums, zw-gator writes, “Anyone else experiencing wayy higher temps? I've been hovering around 82*C all morning.” Others are reporting similar issues. While low system specs appear to be the main issue for these users, third party add-ons left over from Safari 4 may actually be to blame here.

A Support document posted by the Mac maker back in February when everyone was still using Safari 4 and older revealed that, “Third party add-ons may add features to Safari or change its appearance. However, if you use third-party Safari add-ons you may run into a variety of issues.” These include: Safari quits unexpectedly; Safari runs slowly; Safari is unable to download files; Other unexpected behaviors.

A possible resolution is to quit Safari and remove any add-ons installed, the Mac maker says. Updating the plug-ins may also provide a fix. However, the knowledge base article in question should only apply to Safari versions older than 5.0, since the document has been last updated four months ago.


Apple Support document (Safari: Add-ons may cause Safari to unexpectedly quit or have performance issues)


Softpedia will soon post a simple downgrade guide for those looking to revert to Safari 4.




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Comment #1 by: jabwd on 14 Jun 2010, 08:24 UTC reply to this comment

Simply get rid of all your haxies and safari works fine.


Comment #2 by: Daniel on 14 Jun 2010, 10:04 UTC reply to this comment

Instead of posting about how "terrible" this is, why don't you summarize how the forums say that this can be fixed?


Comment #3 by: sambeau on 14 Jun 2010, 16:24 UTC reply to this comment

I'm on my 36th crash report


Comment #4 by: Ceedub on 16 Jun 2010, 03:07 UTC reply to this comment

Safari 5 is a complete disaster. I had to use time machine to restore my system to a previous backup so that I could rid my system of this ill conceived trash. I'm back with Safari 4.05, at least it is stable and runs reasonably well. Sorry but the same cannot be said for Safari 5. Too bad the new upgrade of SL (10.6.4) is linked with Safari 5. No thanks, Apple. I'll wait until you start paying more attention to the Macs and OSX instead of those iPhones. This latest effort falls very short...


Comment #5 by: Pawliw on 17 Jun 2010, 18:57 UTC reply to this comment

I've experience exceptionally long delays when accessing pages using Safari 5. I was going to to back out to Safari 4 however I seem to have resolved most if not all of the problems by updating my Flash Player.


Comment #6 by: Mark on 18 Jun 2010, 21:16 UTC reply to this comment

I'm running 10.6.2 and having consistent hangs when accessing mail.yahoo.com with Safari 5. Found the installer for the last version of Safari 4 (4.0.5) on Apple's web site ( http://support.apple.com/kb/DL877 ). Now I am trying to figure out exactly what I need to delete in order to convince the installer to allow me to install an older version.


Comment #7 by: Alan Dean Foster on 22 Jun 2010, 02:05 UTC reply to this comment

Another problem besides hangs: attempting to print a boarding pass (for Alaska Airlines), the page required to print the pass would not load at all no matter what I tried. The blue line on the URL bar simply ran up and down.

I used Time Machine to restore to Safari 4, and boarding pass print page worked fine. But everything seems slower now. And for this I switched last year from MS?


Comment #8 by: brian d on 23 Jun 2010, 02:01 UTC reply to this comment

My Macbook pro on Snow Leopard has problems with Yahoo mail. It would simply freeze and requires a force quit all the time.

Looks like I have to use Firefox from now on.


Comment #9 by: Barb on 23 Jun 2010, 14:16 UTC reply to this comment

I am having the same issues---Safari slow as snot in January, freezing up, requiring a reboot. This is constant and I too wish there were a way for me to downgrade back to the old RELIABLE version. In general, this just sucks and smacks of windows.


Comment #10 by: Paul on 24 Jun 2010, 13:18 UTC reply to this comment

My God, how many crashes do you need to get the point to use something else!!!! Just grab Opera, Firefox or Chrome till it stabilizes...


Comment #11 by: Safari 5 Stinks on 04 Jul 2010, 22:20 UTC reply to this comment

Safari 5 is definitely not ready for prime time. Apple needs to either fix it or provide a means of downgrading to Safari 4. While Safari 4 was a fast, capable browser, Safari 5 doesn't even load pages much of the time, and the rest of the time it's slower than Firefox! Pages which loaded in 2 seconds in Safari 4 now take 30-40 seconds in Safari 5 - if they load at all. Nearly any complicated page is absolutely horrible, and things get even worse (if you can imagine it) if you try to open up multiple tabs simultaneously. It's plainly broken.


Comment #12 by: k9zac on 07 Jul 2010, 05:49 UTC reply to this comment

Apple's appauling upgrade of Safari to 5 has brought back memories of how badly Microsoft treats users .... just before those users finally 'leave'. I'm out of here ......


Comment #13 by: WellThatsWeird on 28 Jul 2010, 01:09 UTC reply to this comment

Feel I need to say I have Safari 5, and have not noticed any problems at all. Running 10.6.3 Mac Pro 8-core. Hope they fix problems for other users. I wonder what percentage of users are experiencing all those crashes?

HERE'S AN IDEA: Go to Safari Menu > Report Bugs To Apple... and keep sending them messages until they fix it.


Comment #14 by: John on 29 Jul 2010, 10:11 UTC reply to this comment

Unfortunatly loaded Safari 5, before I read anything, had all sort of problems, crashes, mail and safari crashes upon opening, taken me all day, now downloading Safari 4.5 fron softpedia, thanks guys, hope this fixes all


Comment #15 by: user on 28 Oct 2010, 11:48 UTC reply to this comment

just uninstall and... oh, wait.


Comment #16 by: Punch on 04 Nov 2010, 12:54 UTC reply to this comment

The "fix" did not work as like other posts it said 10.3 etc. or higher required.

I managed to get back to Safari 4.0.3 and it is blistering fast.

I am no Mac expert, so you may not really need to do everything I did, but must do actions start with * I may have a few names wrong, but I am not going to repeat the process to get them right - they will be obvious.

* via Finder drag anything with the word safari to the Trash.
* empty the Trash (I used the secure option to make sure it was gone forever)
Copied contents of HD/Library/Internet plugins and put them in a folder on the Desktop.
Deleted contents of HD/Library/Internet plugins
Not knowing macs at all, I ran Disk Utility and Repaired Permissions.
* Put in the Snow Leopard disk. Selected Optional installs. Then expanded applications.
* ticked safari - note it came up with "upgrade", but I ignored that and clicked continue.
Voila - Safari 4 is back and blisteringly fast.

Plugins - sites will "tell" you if you need to download a plugin.

* Change your software update preferences so it is not automatic, so you can prevent S5 coming back.

One final observation - I did a software update and it DID NOT say that there was a safari update available - mmmmm, maybe someone knows there is a problem.

Richard

One final


Comment #17 by: mike on 22 Oct 2011, 19:28 UTC reply to this comment

the new safari is beyond horrible. all the videos hang the tabsare horrible. i want the little thumbnails back. they were cool. this looks like something microsoft would make. safari 5 is the worst marketing blunder since new coke back in the90s!!,!,!,!,

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